Cracks in figures

[Urs]

The pirating of good quality, reasonably priced, useful software is a quite different thing.

While I agree on the first part, I don't think that the vanity displayed by showing off with a counterfeit luxury product and the vanity displayed by having every crack known to man is much different. It's the same mindset. If one really thrives on a highly overpriced bag that's plastered with a stupid logo all over, then save up for it - as simple as that.

[lnikj]

I have scant sympathy for a corporation like Luis Vuitton whose business model is based upon a deliberately ridiculously over priced luxury product, the primary function of which is as an ostentatious display of wealth for the obscenely rich. They're symbolic of much that is wrong with the world.

Thanks Hakey. I genuinely didn't know LV = Luis Vuitton. I'll crawl back under my rock now.

[hakey]

Omnia vanitas.

[chk071]

There may be starving kids, even in Berlin-Kreuzberg, who use cracks because they think they can only get successful as a producer with the most trendy plugins like Massive, Sylenth and Alchemy and your stuff...

Well, it is a mistake to think so. And it is a big mistake to take that as a valid excuse for using warez, if that is your point.

If you really had to ask Tricky-Loops what his point was, when he made it so well, then I think your are being disingenuous. You insult him, and he did not deserve that.

You quite obviously missed exactly what it was he was trying to say. You imply that he is making excuses for those that use warez. He never did that. He pays for all the software he uses and is a vehement proponent against those that do not.

But he is not judgemental and has a mind open to debate. I think you owe him an apology.

Hm, i think you must have missed the "if that is your point" part. Actually i didn't know he wasn't making any point at all, until he said he so. But then, he did neither take it personal, nor was it a big deal.

[Urs]

Funny: Today came crack of a beta version. Some guy there says "MR.Heckmann has already put new traps in his toys…" - not rue. They are utterly clueless people.

That said, for the release version we added a really funny thing to mess with their heads

[octopuss]

Sorry, but I can't agree with you.
I've used cracked U-he software for many time (Incl. ACE) I never had any message or any other problem. I try them for some time, and didn't fill up my need..... So, I buy Sylenth1.
But I use your TyrellN6 and now the Zebralette, but not that often.

Also wend you say: "we have no reason to believe that there's any substantial number of reliably working cracks.", you're just trying to fool people to buy your software, and that I agree. I'm not saying that everyone should use cracked software. That's not correct to the developers, and also not very ethical.
It doesn't matter if you have a protection to "work" in a "special day".
The crackers always find a way to bypass the protection. (although, they didn't find a way to crack Cubase 7 and the Ignition key).

Personally, I like to try a VST without any limit of time or noises.
I understand that U-he can't afford to make that, and you (U-he) also give some nice freeware for those that can't afford to buy your software, as I already stated.

Warez is wrong, and people that constantly use it are only supporting those crackers instead of the developers that spend a lot of time and energy to create those things that some people take it for granted!!!!

[Urs]

I've used cracked U-he software for many time (Incl. ACE) I never had any message or any other problem. I try them for some time, and didn't fill up my need.....

Congratz.

[standalone]

The crackers always find a way to bypass the protection. (although, they didn't find a way to crack Cubase 7

Neither Cubase 6.5, 6 or 5.5

Warez is wrong

You are wrong then

[octopuss]

Neither Cubase 6.5, 6 or 5.5

Warez is wrong

You are wrong then

I may not explain myself correctly.
What I mean......I wanna say that ALL people that use warezed software to create the "ultimate chart hit", are wrong, as you can make one of those "hits" only using freeware.
It was already made!

And BTW standalone:
I own Cubase..... 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 7.
The same applies to Reason (1 to 7) FL Studio (1 to 11) and Ableton Live (1 to 9)

I sometimes use warezed stuff but just to deeply test the software. Those that I like, normally have my money.

I don't have shame to say that.
And you know why?
Because I don't lie to myself or to anyone...... Including the developers!

[ariston]

octopuss, it still sounds fishy, no matter how you phrase it. Using a crack to "test software" is still using a crack. "Yeah, I stole this Ferrari last night, but only to take it for a deep test run, I'll return it in the morning." And this with U-He synths, which sport a really non-intrusive demo mode.

If anything, this really shows that software and hard wares are viewed differently.


No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney.

[standalone]

I sometimes use warezed stuff but just to deeply test the software. Those that I like, normally have my money.

I don't have shame to say that.

I personally would be ashamed just of clicking on a warez site link, horses for courses.

[xamido]

Wow this is a fun thread to read.

@octopuss : you wrote a really bad statement there, really bad.

About the u-he stuff, i own zebra right now and would have gotten ace and diva if my computer is not too slow (i know i can buy a new one, but i'm so lazy to re-install all of my stuff again). But i still occasionally run the ace and diva demo just for fun. The demo limitation is good enough if you just want to try it deeply.

[codec_spurt]

All for a f**king LV bag.

I'm puzzled. You did catch that my wife's LV was a counterfeit...? While she's a bag addict, I think all of her bag collection in total may be worth half a LV, and maybe the buckle strap of an Hermes.

Anyway, it's late.

Er, no. That's what I thought you meant. But I thought my comment only added to the irony, doubly so in the context given.

Some of us take things too literally and others do not see the great big writing in front of our very eyes. I've been guilty of both, on more than one occasion. And then some of us read in deeper meanings and believe that the other can see as far in depth. I've also been guilty of doing that too, and not seeing it also.

No big deal.


Btw, my comment wasn't a slight on my dearly departed friend, it was a slight on his wife. No bandulu LV for her.

[codec_spurt]

Hm, i think you must have missed the "if that is your point" part. Actually i didn't know he wasn't making any point at all, until he said he so. But then, he did neither take it personal, nor was it a big deal.

You know, you're probably right. I missed the point. On more than one level. I do that sometimes.



Peace.

[Tricky-Loops]

octopuss, it still sounds fishy, no matter how you phrase it. Using a crack to "test software" is still using a crack. "Yeah, I stole this Ferrari last night, but only to take it for a deep test run, I'll return it in the morning." And this with U-He synths, which sport a really non-intrusive demo mode.

This is a valid point...or imagine going into a supermarket, grabbing a shirt and saying to the salesgirl: "I bring it again some time. If it fits good, I'll buy it!"

I rather use a demo version to test a software than a crack. Not only because it's legal, more because I'm afraid of these installation .EXE and key generators, and I always fear that there may be some trojan or virus included.

Some years ago I tried to extract warez, and then I got the error display "Archive corrupted" etc. Glad that I did in Sandboxie, so I haven't had any malware...

I rather trust a demo version directly from the developer than some Team AiR pirates!