The All In One Source Bitwig Information & Speculation Thread

[Ogopogo]

Thomas, sorry to jump on you, but is there anything that you can tell us about Bitwig that we haven't already seen? What are your favorite undocumented features?

[ThomasHelzle]

Thomas, sorry to jump on you, but is there anything that you can tell us about Bitwig that we haven't already seen? What are your favorite undocumented features?

That it exists

Cheers,

Tom

[Ogopogo]

Thank you, sir.

[robogone]

Thomas, sorry to jump on you, but is there anything that you can tell us about Bitwig that we haven't already seen? What are your favorite undocumented features?

[ThomasHelzle]

Thomas, sorry to jump on you, but is there anything that you can tell us about Bitwig that we haven't already seen? What are your favorite undocumented features?

I'm a total sucker for cleverness, and Bitwig is that.

I think the whole modulation structure is just amazing.
Although it's no undocumented, IMO it's massive.

So far you needed a modular, usually node based DAW to do this kind of thing, but while Bitwig is node-based behind the scenes AFAIK, the crew has created the most intuitive non-node DAW GUI I've ever seen.
Every musician should be able to use it in 5 minutes.

If he's slow

If you know the brilliant modulation functionality in Dmitry Sches Diversion, think a whole DAW working like that...


Another Example:
Take a totally normal beast, ahem, delay. Feels rather basic at first, but then you click the "FB FX" sign, and you're able to insert whatever effect(s) you want into it's feedback loop...
VERY simple.
VERY deep.
LOVE it.

A sounddesigners wet dream

Cheers,

Tom

[Dunbar]

Shoop.

Noope.

[Ogopogo]

@Thomas

That is really cool stuff. Although I haven't been able to play with it, I can imagine how much of a change the modulation is. Reaper has had the ability to do a lot of that under the name of "parameter modulation." When I saw that I realized how much sense it made for the host to be doing modulation, I mean it's already accepted that automation is a hosts job and modulation is not so far from that. However, like a lot of Reaper stuff the implementation is a bit "involved" which can make it a bit of a pain to set up it up and experiment. That Massive style where you set the range and everything right on the same knob really looks like it makes it immediate.

Delay feedback effects also look awesome. I look forward to putting something subtle like a high quality tape or console emulation in there.

[garyboozy]

yep, what thomas said. the automation itself is top notch too - alt-click an automation node to turn it into an 'S' curve. fast and easy.
the reverb's 'tank' section is great, where you can insert effects inside the verb for some great otherworldy spaces, v cool.
there's a simple drawbar organ as one of the instrument devices. a bit meh, you might think, but when you modulate it, it's a nifty sound design tool.

[pc999]

Thanks Thomas, mcnay and Dom.

That cleverness comment just made my day

Just answer this (with a yes preferably

I am amused by the quick turn around in cheers for BWS.



Now I am wondering.. will BWS cost more or less than 200 USD?

On side note, it is very nice to know that the registration is simple, I hope I can keep jumping Linux distros without problems!

[ThomasHelzle]

yep, what thomas said. the automation itself is top notch too - alt-click an automation node to turn it into an 'S' curve. fast and easy.
the reverb's 'tank' section is great, where you can insert effects inside the verb for some great otherworldy spaces, v cool.
there's a simple drawbar organ as one of the instrument devices. a bit meh, you might think, but when you modulate it, it's a nifty sound design tool.

Yeah, it's basically a kind of "RISC" approach: Instead of those hyper effects that are very complicated and contain everything the designer thought you may ever want from them, you get a toolbox, a kind of Lego, and create your own effect. But not like in Reactor, which is rather intimidating to the uninitiated, but from components you already know.

But you can put Satin into the delay feedback as well or Diversion FX, modulate them and control them live with the ingeniously simple colour coding...



Fun.

Cheers,

Tom

[sonicpowa]

Less than 200USD!? I think it's twice that amount. Hope I'm wrong.

[elxsound]

yep, what thomas said. the automation itself is top notch too - alt-click an automation node to turn it into an 'S' curve. fast and easy.
the reverb's 'tank' section is great, where you can insert effects inside the verb for some great otherworldy spaces, v cool.
there's a simple drawbar organ as one of the instrument devices. a bit meh, you might think, but when you modulate it, it's a nifty sound design tool.

Yeah, it's basically a kind of "RISC" approach: Instead of those hyper effects that are very complicated and contain everything the designer thought you may ever want from them, you get a toolbox, a kind of Lego, and create your own effect. But not like in Reactor, which is rather intimidating to the uninitiated, but from components you already know.

But you can put Satin into the delay feedback as well or Diversion FX, modulate them and control them live with the ingeniously simple colour coding...



Fun.

Cheers,

Tom

This (adding whatever plugin in a feedback loop) alone sounds amazing.

[elxsound]

Less than 200USD!? I think it's twice that amount. Hope I'm wrong.

I'm very curious about the price too.

As a longtime Live user, I can't simply switch from Live to BW (too many old projects I still need access to), but I'd love to work with both. I'm hoping that it won't be priced similarly to Live, but then again... a good product is a good product .

[BMoore]

It's all about the children, so someone please ask about the summing!

[musikmachine]

Less than 200USD!? I think it's twice that amount. Hope I'm wrong.

Maybe for the 'Lite' version.