KVR Audio

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:11 am

ericj23 wrote:Do we actually know there is no PDC?

I'm not sure. I'm eagerly waiting for a complete list of improvements.

/C

awol9000 · Post by **awol9000** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:39 pm

Can someone explain what PDC is?

liv · Post by **liv** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:40 pm

awol9000 wrote:Can someone explain what PDC is?

Plugin delay compensation.
It compensates for plugins that introduces a certain amount of delay (time for calculation), like some reverbs for example.

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:49 pm

fluxmind wrote: Yes, it's aimed at morons(sheep), there's no question here, but still it's a great creative tool which would highly benefit from PDC and would attract more people, because it's much more fun to make something in Maschine, than in usual established archaic ways.
Whatever.....

No question, okay.......

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:04 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
musikmachine wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Those drum synth modules should have been in Battery 4
Fwiw a drum synth has been requested for maschine from a couple of years back and Ni hinted it was coming a few months ago.
It's been requested for Battery since version 1.

Has NI said they'll add one? I didn't know it was requested for Batts, i haven't used that since about v2. I always thought it was the ultimate drum sampler.

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:14 pm

musikmachine wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
musikmachine wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Those drum synth modules should have been in Battery 4
Fwiw a drum synth has been requested for maschine from a couple of years back and Ni hinted it was coming a few months ago.
It's been requested for Battery since version 1.
Has NI said they'll add one? I didn't know it was requested for Batts, i haven't used that since about v2. I always thought it was the ultimate drum sampler.

I'm sure they will come as a future update of Battery. That + bigger library = 99 euros. Nah - now I'm being cynical

/C

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:20 pm

loachm wrote:...are there any confirmed sources about handling multi-timbral instruments? I couldn't believe it, if you're still forced to open a new instance of e.g. Kontakt for every sound...

Really need to know that, be weird if they haven't with the new mixer and unlimited slots; how you gonna mix those kontakt drum kits?! Must surely be part of the rewrite!

liv · Post by **liv** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:24 pm

liv wrote:
awol9000 wrote:Can someone explain what PDC is?
Plugin delay compensation.
It compensates for plugins that introduces a certain amount of delay (time for calculation), like some reverbs for example.

Also worth noting is that logically this introduces latency which is a no-no for those (like me) who uses Maschine live.
Having it as an option to turn on/off would of course serve both those who uses it as/in a DAW and those who use it live.

OzWozEre · Post by **OzWozEre** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:01 pm

Ah, so _now_ I know why NI had a recent Maschine + 6xExpansion Pack sale

Note to self: Whenever NI has a big sale, a product refresh is coming!

gamecat666 · Post by **gamecat666** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:24 pm

yup, and im wondering how much of the 'larger 8gb content' is taken from the expansions.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:28 pm

DrGonzo wrote:
musikmachine wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
musikmachine wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Those drum synth modules should have been in Battery 4
Fwiw a drum synth has been requested for maschine from a couple of years back and Ni hinted it was coming a few months ago.
It's been requested for Battery since version 1.
Has NI said they'll add one? I didn't know it was requested for Batts, i haven't used that since about v2. I always thought it was the ultimate drum sampler.
I'm sure they will come as a future update of Battery. That + bigger library = 99 euros. Nah - now I'm being cynical

/C

People are complaining about the 99 euros but that's what NI does don't they; all their .0 updates are paid but i thought there would have been a 1.9 update although they said a rewrite was necessary to implement all the stuff people were asking for. Cynical and underhanded i dunno, maybe but this is a huge update and i for one am well excited!

Do you still use Maschine?

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:17 pm

musikmachine wrote:People are complaining about the 99 euros but that's what NI does don't they; all their .0 updates are paid but i thought there would have been a 1.9 update although they said a rewrite was necessary to implement all the stuff people were asking for. Cynical and underhanded i dunno, maybe but this is a huge update and i for one am well excited!

Do you still use Maschine?

Yeah - if they really have included everything that people were asking for then I'm all cool with 99 euros. But so far I've only heard about MIDI import and multicore support.

I don't use Maschine that much to be honest. I load it up occasionally when I want to port my sounds to Maschine - but I really never feel too comfortable in that environment. Partly due to the workflow - but I'm always getting annoyed by small details and the fact that it lacks something so damned basic as round robin is beyond me. I mean - it's just cycling between a number of samples! And realtime timestretch that's not rocket science either. They got a bunch of algos in Kontakt already, so... so far I've been scratching my head regarding the development of Maschine and wondering why they are dragging their feet. I mean - NI already have the algos and techniques to make Maschine absolutely awesome. They had it already when Maschine was born. Multicore processors - PDC - timestretch - all those things where pretty common even back then. So honestly - I'm not sure why NI is dragging their feet.

But just by looking at the UI - I'm interested. And if the rewrite includes all the stuff users have been moaning about for years - my 99 euros is theirs.

/C

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:27 pm

I hear ya, definitely hope they've addressed it in 2.0! The cdm hands on review gives a pretty good overview of the new stuff with a review coming soon: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2013/10/v ... -hardware/

I've read sampling improvements but i don't know what they are. Yeah so much potential there but it looks like they've realized a lot of it in the update.

Roll on November!

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:39 pm

I have no problem with the 99 bucks. Again, I seriously doubt that a 2.0 release is going to be w/o it's problems.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:01 pm

hibidy wrote:I have no problem with the 99 bucks. Again, I seriously doubt that a 2.0 release is going to be w/o it's problems.

Yeah it'd be great to be able to run 1.8 concurrently, surprised they didn't have a public beta what wiv all the mk1 and mk2 owners.

Maschine Studio and Maschine 2.0!!!