KVR Audio

K-Slash · Post by **K-Slash** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:01 am

hibidy wrote:Have they done any updating since the initial release? I didn't know if I needed to update.

v1.1 is on the way, coming this week !

Go grab the public beta (very stable on Windows) here :

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 87#5503387

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:49 am

Cheers!

RefinedRough · Post by **RefinedRough** » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:36 am

very very useful! also useful to mix from scratch directly into it on the masterbus. and the flanger/delays are sexy too!

Rah · Post by **Rah** » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:05 pm

Kindred wrote:finally got around to trying this on the master bus - ran this track through it. Interestingly, I got the opposite effect to Slate VTM. With the Slate, it gives the bottom end a push and I usually have to compensate by pulling some of the bottom end out. With Satin, my final mixdown is tighter, with less sub-bass in the kick than my premaster - still not sure whether I like it more or less - I get the feeling my pre-master sounds better in headphones and the master run through Satin will sound better on a big system.

Note this has also gone through a Thermionic Phoenix so this has also coloured it a little.

https://soundcloud.com/kriece/catatonia-krieces-lucid

Nice sounds man

Ian Dowling · Post by **Ian Dowling** » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:20 pm

Kindred wrote:finally got around to trying this on the master bus - ran this track through it. Interestingly, I got the opposite effect to Slate VTM. With the Slate, it gives the bottom end a push and I usually have to compensate by pulling some of the bottom end out. With Satin, my final mixdown is tighter, with less sub-bass in the kick than my premaster - still not sure whether I like it more or less - I get the feeling my pre-master sounds better in headphones and the master run through Satin will sound better on a big system.

Note this has also gone through a Thermionic Phoenix so this has also coloured it a little.

https://soundcloud.com/kriece/catatonia-krieces-lucid

I love the 3D ness, depth, space of your mix

Superb!! and great track as well ... the legend continues

Would you mind telling me after sascha's explanation if you could keep the low end heft of you kick drums ?

And with regards to the space and 3Dness, does satin enhance it ?

IS there any processor you could recommend in the plugin world which can indeed impart all that space, depth and 3D ?

I am a bit leaving the hardware aside for a moment and experimenting with plugins, and I'd be very curios to hear your reply.

Merci

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:26 pm

The imager in Ozone is superb, but just a little goes a long way. If you push it too far, you can create a lot of new problems in your mix. I like to use it only on one or two tracks in a mix, or just a touch on the master channel.

I've done a little experimenting, comparing the compander with some of my compressors. At this point, all I can say is - it sounds different

I really need to take some time and rtfm.

I haven't done any rock 'n roll lately, but I can't wait to try Satin on some rock tracks. I'm not getting an urge to use it on the game tracks I'm doing.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:03 pm

I feel I'll probably have to shell before the price goes up. There seems to be something about license transfers I don't understand, but I'm not buying it to sell it...just that the write up on it seemed......frustrated.

Anyways, it's a lovely sounding plug. I'm really trying to trim down but it hits a unique sweet spot.

core · Post by **core** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:46 am

hibidy wrote:I feel I'll probably have to shell before the price goes up. There seems to be something about license transfers I don't understand, but I'm not buying it to sell it...just that the write up on it seemed......frustrated.

Anyways, it's a lovely sounding plug. I'm really trying to trim down but it hits a unique sweet spot.

Isn't it simply that you can't sell your license for a number of months after purchase (I think 9 months).

CableChannel · Post by **CableChannel** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:38 am

Why is there an OMG in the thread title?

Shouldn't it be OMFG?

Oh my feathered grouse?

TreyM · Post by **TreyM** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:19 am

CableChannel wrote:Why is there an OMG in the thread title?

Shouldn't it be OMFG?

Oh my feathered grouse?

His grouse had an accident and they had to pluck it's feathers. So, OMG is appropriate.

Kindred · Post by **Kindred** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:17 am

Ian Dowling wrote:
Kindred wrote:finally got around to trying this on the master bus - ran this track through it. Interestingly, I got the opposite effect to Slate VTM. With the Slate, it gives the bottom end a push and I usually have to compensate by pulling some of the bottom end out. With Satin, my final mixdown is tighter, with less sub-bass in the kick than my premaster - still not sure whether I like it more or less - I get the feeling my pre-master sounds better in headphones and the master run through Satin will sound better on a big system.

Note this has also gone through a Thermionic Phoenix so this has also coloured it a little.

https://soundcloud.com/kriece/catatonia-krieces-lucid

I love the 3D ness, depth, space of your mix Superb!! and great track as well ... the legend continues

Would you mind telling me after sascha's explanation if you could keep the low end heft of you kick drums ?

And with regards to the space and 3Dness, does satin enhance it ?

IS there any processor you could recommend in the plugin world which can indeed impart all that space, depth and 3D ?

I am a bit leaving the hardware aside for a moment and experimenting with plugins, and I'd be very curios to hear your reply.

Merci

Thanks for the nice comments Ian

Yes Sascha is completely right - it is possible with some tweaking. I haven't had a chance to try it out on another master, but have been using it on a track I am working on, on individual channels. I am just at the stage of experimenting with tweaking existing presets but eventually when I get time I want to create something custom made in Satin that I can use on my masters and then tweak to taste.

Satin definitely enhances the 3D but I suspect mainly via the hiss, which always seems to do this (check out an old Maurizio/Basic Channel track to hear the effect of hiss on the mix). The U-he guys should have a better explanation of Satin's 3D qualities than myself however.

In terms of my track, to be honest I think most of the 3D you are hearing is via reverb with some stereo action going on (I used mainly 2c B2 for that track) plus the Dimension D patch of Valhalla Ubermod on some of the other sounds (this is from memory - I am getting forgetful in my twilight years!)

so, for space/3d I would suggest - 2c B2, Eventide Blackhole, Ubermod and there is also a cool plug called CMX which really widens stuff.

Hope that helps

Ian Dowling · Post by **Ian Dowling** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:50 pm

Kindred wrote:
Thanks for the nice comments Ian

Yes Sascha is completely right - it is possible with some tweaking. I haven't had a chance to try it out on another master, but have been using it on a track I am working on, on individual channels. I am just at the stage of experimenting with tweaking existing presets but eventually when I get time I want to create something custom made in Satin that I can use on my masters and then tweak to taste.

Satin definitely enhances the 3D but I suspect mainly via the hiss, which always seems to do this (check out an old Maurizio/Basic Channel track to hear the effect of hiss on the mix). The U-he guys should have a better explanation of Satin's 3D qualities than myself however.

In terms of my track, to be honest I think most of the 3D you are hearing is via reverb with some stereo action going on (I used mainly 2c B2 for that track) plus the Dimension D patch of Valhalla Ubermod on some of the other sounds (this is from memory - I am getting forgetful in my twilight years!)

so, for space/3d I would suggest - 2c B2, Eventide Blackhole, Ubermod and there is also a cool plug called CMX which really widens stuff.

Hope that helps

Thank you very much friend! Always solid and reliable recommendations from you

I shall get my hands on those goodies right away

Merci encore for sharing your expertise!

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:07 pm

core wrote:
hibidy wrote:I feel I'll probably have to shell before the price goes up. There seems to be something about license transfers I don't understand, but I'm not buying it to sell it...just that the write up on it seemed......frustrated.

Anyways, it's a lovely sounding plug. I'm really trying to trim down but it hits a unique sweet spot.
Isn't it simply that you can't sell your license for a number of months after purchase (I think 9 months).

I guess. Just sounded confusing.

I know I want this. It has worked beautifully in live and studio one so far and is a special plug. It's totally unique and it's quite a fair price. I just don't want to buy anything right now

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:27 am

hibidy wrote:
core wrote:
hibidy wrote:I feel I'll probably have to shell before the price goes up. There seems to be something about license transfers I don't understand, but I'm not buying it to sell it...just that the write up on it seemed......frustrated.

Anyways, it's a lovely sounding plug. I'm really trying to trim down but it hits a unique sweet spot.
Isn't it simply that you can't sell your license for a number of months after purchase (I think 9 months).
I guess. Just sounded confusing.

I know I want this. It has worked beautifully in live and studio one so far and is a special plug. It's totally unique and it's quite a fair price. I just don't want to buy anything right now

i would have thought you would have fallen in love w/ the tape flanging ...

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:00 am

Uggggg, I'm running out of time. One last test........

Satin OMG