Waldorf Pulse 2: officially released (OS updated to v1.18)

[sqigls]

... The P1 was noted for its exceptionally fast envelopes, are the P2's envelopes as fast?

I would like to know this also. From the audio examples it sounds pretty good. Just how snappy are they??
cheers

[hakey]

... The P1 was noted for its exceptionally fast envelopes, are the P2's envelopes as fast?

I would like to know this also. From the audio examples it sounds pretty good. Just how snappy are they??

There's a theory that the reduced maximum lfo rate of the P2 vs P1 (100Hz rather than the P1's 256?Hz) is due to a slower global clock speed, which also has the effect of slower envelopes.

May be a load of bollox (perhaps with osc>filterFM, audio rate lfo's were no longer deemed necessary), or it might explain some of the apparent sound difference between the two.

[Marzac@Waldorf]

Hi guys,

There's a theory that the reduced maximum lfo rate of the P2 vs P1 (100Hz rather than the P1's 256?Hz) is due to a slower global clock speed, which also has the effect of slower envelopes.

This is total bullshit. Pulse 1 has an update rate of 500Hz (2ms) and Pulse 2 1KHz (two times more). However there is slight problem of time mapping for the fastest attack speeds (below value 9). This is corrected in the update that will come next week.

Will a Pulse1 patch loaded in the Pulse2 sound *exactly* the same?

Almost. But since both the circuitry and software have changed, it CANNOT sounds exactly the same, it is just impossible.

If not what's changed?

We did our best to respect : times, rates, volumes, parameters to filter curve. There is also some compensation applied when loading a Pulse 1 preset. A lot of functionalities have been added, filter structure is modified to provide all the curves and pre-filter distortion changed for paraphonic mode.

Frédéric[/quote]

[hakey]

Hi guys,

There's a theory that the reduced maximum lfo rate of the P2 vs P1 (100Hz rather than the P1's 256?Hz) is due to a slower global clock speed, which also has the effect of slower envelopes.

This is total bullshit.

Thanks for the response - note: I was careful to say that that particular theory could be bollox!

(you might want to post that up in the gearslutz thread, which is where I got that from)

Pulse 1 has an update rate of 500Hz (2ms) and Pulse 2 1KHz (two times more). However there is slight problem of time mapping for the fastest attack speeds (below value 9).

So with the update the P2 should have envelopes that are every bit as fast as the P1?

Almost. But since both the circuitry and software have changed, it CANNOT sounds exactly the same, it is just impossible.

Fair enough.

[acidfever]

I have no idea about the exact numbers but to my ears the Pulse 2 has extremely fast envelopes. Faster than most synths I have owned in the past.

[Tupapupa]

the new version 1.11 ist out for download on the waldorf site

...hope the midi through bug is solved

[acidfever]

the new version 1.11 ist out for download on the waldorf site

...hope the midi through bug is solved

That is kind of weird since beta testers mentioned the midi thru bug was still there in v1.11 beta but solved in v1.12 beta.

Hopefully they put the fix in v1.11 final but it would have been more logical if they released v1.12 if you ask me.

Finally it would be nice if there was some sort of changelog available.

[Ingonator]

At amazona.de a german review of the Pulse 2 is published:
http://www.amazona.de/test-waldorf-puls ... nthesizer/


Concerning the OS 1.11:
AFAIK the MIDI thru bug should be solved with 1.12. Not sure when that one will be published.

There is a DEFINITELY a MIDI through bug which has been corrected in the
version 1.12 of the firmware. At the moment I am trying to fix the bugs
which have not been reported during the test phase.

Ingo

[Tupapupa]

...you are both right, it is not fixed with the 1.11

if i were waldorf i would see to fix it quick because the synth resets "unseen"
that means knobs, display and all are still functioning - but no sound or only skweeky noise comes out...so people could think it is broken and send it back...


nice test on Amazona, only the sound examples are a bit poor

[xamido]

Now i'm ready to get pulse, do you guys know which store sell it the cheapest nowadays?

[Tupapupa]

in germany they are all sold out, but should be back in 2 weeks

the prices i saw were everywhere the same - 499€
for other countries i don't know availability and prices, sorry


ask Frederic (Marzac@Waldorf) here in this thread, he is from waldorf

[sqigls]

I had to get mine from Poland...
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 1013549980

[Ingonator]

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[guardner]

Hi!

I have a feature request...

What do you think about a LFO reset with incoming notes, that means every time a note is triggered, the LFO starts from the beginning?? and a possibility to set the starting point of the LFO?
For me it would open great possibilities and it would enhance sound designing with Pulse2.

This could be set up at the "Sound Menu" (shift+sound).

Marcus

[Ingonator]

Hi!

I have a feature request...

What do you think about a LFO reset with incoming notes, that means every time a note is triggered, the LFO starts from the beginning?? and a possibility to set the starting point of the LFO?
For me it would open great possibilities and it would enhance sound designing with Pulse2.

This could be set up at the "Sound Menu" (shift+sound).

A similar topic is just discussed in the closed beta forum.

This post could be interesting maybe:

* the LFO 1 can be reset by MIDI start event, if it is clocked.
* the LFO 2 is free running, excepting when you set a delay time.
Delayed LFO is reseted when the engine start to play a note.

If you want to get some synchronous modulation you
can already either use LFO2 with unit delay or use envelope looping
modes. You can also multiply LFOs with an envelope in the matrix.

Ingo