The All In One Source Bitwig Information & Speculation Thread

[justin3am]

Yeah, big thanks to Thomas.

I've been having a lot of fun using a Panorama P1 and a LaunchPad to control Bitwig. I love that you can switch the LaunchPad between horizontal and vertical arrangement of clips to match the Arrangement view or the Mixer View. I also love the use of button LEDs as signal level indicators.

These guys have some really cool ideas on how to to work with controllers. Not only for the obvious application of controlling stuff but also for giving the user critical information about the state of the project/track/whatever you are currently controlling.

[elnn]

^ so does Panorama have full integration with Bitwig the same way as Reason, or is all the MIDI mapping magic DAW-side?

[Echoes in the Attic]

Yeah, big thanks to Thomas.

I've been having a lot of fun using a Panorama P1 and a LaunchPad to control Bitwig. I love that you can switch the LaunchPad between horizontal and vertical arrangement of clips to match the Arrangement view or the Mixer View. I also love the use of button LEDs as signal level indicators.

These guys have some really cool ideas on how to to work with controllers. Not only for the obvious application of controlling stuff but also for giving the user critical information about the state of the project/track/whatever you are currently controlling.

Speaking of this, I was curious if they've provided any means for assigning modulations and mod amounts with their control surface support. Watching the videos, it looks like you can pretty much send a modulator to any target and you get a superimposed highlighted dial on top. I can imagine a harware system that mimics this by selecting a modulator, hitting some button which engages mod mapping and then adjusting the hardware dial of the target which adjusts the mod amount rather than the parameter amount. Would be great on the Panorama controllers. Is there any function for this kind of thing?

Also, is it possible to map the modulation amounts to macros? The downside of this visual mod mapping type system (like with Synth squad) is that the mod amounts aren't parameters themselves, and so aren't typically automatable/mappable, unless explicitly mapped to mod wheel or something. Hopefully bitwig has a good system for this.

[audiohouse]

@DOM

I am just amazed of all the nice workflow features, and after reading all 82 pages of this thread (minus the cats), Bitwig is really coming well together, and I cant hold myself and I have to ask the timeless question:

Is Bitwig getting closer to a release date?

A simple "yes" will do

[justin3am]

^ so does Panorama have full integration with Bitwig the same way as Reason, or is all the MIDI mapping magic DAW-side?

Sorry, I'd prefer to remain vague on this front, at least until Bitwig Studio is released. I hope you guys understand.
However, Claes did an awesome video for Audiofanzine at Messe, which shows (among other things) how a P4 works with BWS.

[pc999]

Yeah, big thanks to Thomas.

I've been having a lot of fun using a Panorama P1 and a LaunchPad to control Bitwig. I love that you can switch the LaunchPad between horizontal and vertical arrangement of clips to match the Arrangement view or the Mixer View. I also love the use of button LEDs as signal level indicators.

These guys have some really cool ideas on how to to work with controllers. Not only for the obvious application of controlling stuff but also for giving the user critical information about the state of the project/track/whatever you are currently controlling.

Any more detail that you can give? Please.
(even just about Launchpad)

Control integration is on of the most important features IMO, anyway I like your general impression!

Edit:
BTW Any LaunchNektar or Push Nektar planed? I never had the chance to try it (portugal) but they sure get good reviewns and look good (a bit pricier though )

[pdxindy]

@DOM

I am just amazed of all the nice workflow features, and after reading all 82 pages of this thread (minus the cats), Bitwig is really coming well together, and I cant hold myself and I have to ask the timeless question:

Is Bitwig getting closer to a release date?

A simple "yes" will do

Even I can answer that one... Assuming that Bitwig does get released at some point, and I think that is a safe assumption, then each day that passes we are a little closer to a release date... so the answer is YES!

[ThomasHelzle]

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This is not a cat pic, so please use your imagination ;-)

- Interesting fact: Bitwig supports .flac directly.
I dropped a JFK speech from archive-org on the timeline and it just worked. Nice.

- Yeah, the scripting and mapping seems rather deep. So far I thought it would only be for very specific nerdy stuff, but now I learned it can also be used for all kinds of stuff like mapping Poly-AT to whatever you want and reacting to and sending sysex as well!
Interesting.
I guess we will see some rather wild stuff emerging from the scripting-community after the release!
I'll leave the specifics for after the release, but I think there is little that can't be done.
And it's even documented...

Cheers,

Tom

[audiohouse]

@DOM

I am just amazed of all the nice workflow features, and after reading all 82 pages of this thread (minus the cats), Bitwig is really coming well together, and I cant hold myself and I have to ask the timeless question:

Is Bitwig getting closer to a release date?

A simple "yes" will do

Even I can answer that one... Assuming that Bitwig does get released at some point, and I think that is a safe assumption, then each day that passes we are a little closer to a release date... so the answer is YES!

No you cant. Its true that for everyday that goes we are getting closer, but we are also getting closer to the apocalypse, see thats a vague answer...But I see what u did.

The question was specifically to DOM, at this point everybody knows it will be released some time in the future or if everything is going to plan @ Bitwig before 2014... But if the word "yes" came from DOM, it will be atleast somewhat reassuring that Bitwig is on the right track and that its coming before 2014.

[Ogopogo]

^Well come on, obviously it's getting along, what we've heard from the beta testers so far indicates it's in working order with a few unfinished bits. Of course Dom is going to say "Yes," because yes is the only answer for the question unless collapse of the company is imminent, and I don't really see any reason to think that.

Now I'm worried people are going to take Dom not responding to some random question because he's busy as evidence that the project is in trouble...

[ThomasHelzle]

No you cant. Its true that for everyday that goes we are getting closer, but we are also getting closer to the apocalypse, see thats a vague answer...But I see what u did.

The question was specifically to DOM, at this point everybody knows it will be released some time in the future or if everything is going to plan @ Bitwig before 2014... But if the word "yes" came from DOM, it will be atleast somewhat reassuring that Bitwig is on the right track.

So you think they would not release it rather like yesterday themselves?

I don't get this discussion really.

I mean, would they do all this work just to keep it to themselves or to create epic cat-pic-threads?
Or because they are mean?

When developers specify a date and can't keep it because they are concerned with quality, people get nuts.
If they don't specify a date, people get nuts.

What would you do if you were a developer?



And we are not getting closer to the apocalypse, THAT is vaporware if there ever was any

Cheers,

Tom

[Echoes in the Attic]

No you cant. Its true that for everyday that goes we are getting closer, but we are also getting closer to the apocalypse, see thats a vague answer...But I see what u did.

The question was specifically to DOM, at this point everybody knows it will be released some time in the future or if everything is going to plan @ Bitwig before 2014... But if the word "yes" came from DOM, it will be atleast somewhat reassuring that Bitwig is on the right track.

So you think they would not release it rather like yesterday themselves?

I don't get this discussion really.

I mean, would they do all this work just to keep it to themselves or to create epic cat-pic-threads?
Or because they are mean?

Seriously right? So ridiculous asking DOM to confirm that it's "on the right track" and "getting closer to a release date". I mean what the hell is he going to say? "No we are not getting closer"?

Despite the fact that in every video and lots of posts all over the net, he's saying it's coming along nicely but they want to release it stable etc., despite all that he's still expected to give some random reassurance that Bitwig hasn't somehow just halted development?

Weird thinking some of these people.

[pdxindy]

@DOM

I am just amazed of all the nice workflow features, and after reading all 82 pages of this thread (minus the cats), Bitwig is really coming well together, and I cant hold myself and I have to ask the timeless question:

Is Bitwig getting closer to a release date?

A simple "yes" will do

Even I can answer that one... Assuming that Bitwig does get released at some point, and I think that is a safe assumption, then each day that passes we are a little closer to a release date... so the answer is YES!

No you cant. Its true that for everyday that goes we are getting closer, but we are also getting closer to the apocalypse, see thats a vague answer...But I see what u did.

The question was specifically to DOM, at this point everybody knows it will be released some time in the future or if everything is going to plan @ Bitwig before 2014... But if the word "yes" came from DOM, it will be atleast somewhat reassuring that Bitwig is on the right track and that its coming before 2014.

So really what you are saying is that you are insecure about the apocalypse and hope that Bitwig gets here before it does. So you want Dom to tell you that it will. I really think you are expecting too much of the poor fellow to be able to predict the apocalypse that accurately!

[pdxindy]

No you cant. Its true that for everyday that goes we are getting closer, but we are also getting closer to the apocalypse, see thats a vague answer...But I see what u did.

The question was specifically to DOM, at this point everybody knows it will be released some time in the future or if everything is going to plan @ Bitwig before 2014... But if the word "yes" came from DOM, it will be atleast somewhat reassuring that Bitwig is on the right track.

So you think they would not release it rather like yesterday themselves?

I don't get this discussion really.

I mean, would they do all this work just to keep it to themselves or to create epic cat-pic-threads?
Or because they are mean?

Seriously right? So ridiculous asking DOM to confirm that it's "on the right track" and "getting closer to a release date". I mean what the hell is he going to say? "No we are not getting closer"?

Were I a developer, I would be tempted to say, every time someone asks when it is coming out I will delay the release one more day.

I suppose that is why I am also not a developer! hehe

[pdxindy]

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This is not a cat pic, so please use your imagination ;-)

- Interesting fact: Bitwig supports .flac directly.
I dropped a JFK speech from archive-org on the timeline and it just worked. Nice.

- Yeah, the scripting and mapping seems rather deep. So far I thought it would only be for very specific nerdy stuff, but now I learned it can also be used for all kinds of stuff like mapping Poly-AT to whatever you want and reacting to and sending sysex as well!
Interesting.
I guess we will see some rather wild stuff emerging from the scripting-community after the release!
I'll leave the specifics for after the release, but I think there is little that can't be done.
And it's even documented...

Cheers,

Tom

So it does support PolyAT!