Should I spend my $$ On Sonar X3 Or Logic X

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VitaminD wrote:
ZenPunkHippy wrote:
VitaminD wrote:
ZenPunkHippy wrote:You can't demo Logic, especially if you don't have a Mac (!). Best thing to do is visit an Apple store and check out Logic on one of the display machines. It should be obviously fairly quickly whether you like it or not.

Peace,
Andy.
You've just proven you can demo Logic.
I meant at home, at your leisure ...
I never specified. You assumed.
In hindsight, my posts above are terse and quite sour. I'm sorry for that! We're all trying to help. :hug:

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No worries!

Peace,
Andy.
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VitaminD wrote:
VitaminD wrote:
ZenPunkHippy wrote:
VitaminD wrote:
ZenPunkHippy wrote:You can't demo Logic, especially if you don't have a Mac (!). Best thing to do is visit an Apple store and check out Logic on one of the display machines. It should be obviously fairly quickly whether you like it or not.

Peace,
Andy.
You've just proven you can demo Logic.
I meant at home, at your leisure ...
I never specified. You assumed.
In hindsight, my posts above are terse and quite sour. I'm sorry for that! We're all trying to help. :hug:
See now, look at all the love that Logic Pro X and Sonar X3 bring out in people. Clearly they're both quite wonderful.

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mondaydave wrote:Hey Guys,

I have been using Sonar X3 for the last couple of years (Currently X2a)and I like the workflow of the program, However I have a few bucks to spend and I can either build a custom PC and upgrade to Sonar X3 or buy a MAC and buy Logic X for pretty much the same money.

I would like to hear from anyone who has moved from one to the other and hear your thoughts. Most people I know use Logic and swear by it but Sonar X3 looks quite slick and I like the look of integrated Melodyne.(Maybe I'm just suffering from the "grass is always greener" syndrome).

Just wondering if the difference between the two programs is worth the new learning curve.

Thanks for your input.

MondayDave
Bitwig.

I understand that it will come with some lucious accordian samples.

Welcome to KVR, by the way! Where comparison discussions often lead to senseless verbal assaults, and cat pictures

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no_barcode wrote:
VitaminD wrote:
VitaminD wrote:
ZenPunkHippy wrote:
VitaminD wrote:
ZenPunkHippy wrote:You can't demo Logic, especially if you don't have a Mac (!). Best thing to do is visit an Apple store and check out Logic on one of the display machines. It should be obviously fairly quickly whether you like it or not.

Peace,
Andy.
You've just proven you can demo Logic.
I meant at home, at your leisure ...
I never specified. You assumed.
In hindsight, my posts above are terse and quite sour. I'm sorry for that! We're all trying to help. :hug:
See now, look at all the love that Logic Pro X and Sonar X3 bring out in people. Clearly they're both quite wonderful.
I prefer Cubase.


















:hihi:

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Real answer in a nutshell:

Stick with what you know, unless you are not able to be productive with what you got-that would be wholly my advice, based purely on common sense.

Cakewalk apparently just got a cash infusion; I personally would expect that Sonar will remain supported and therefore relevant, at least for a while.

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goldenanalog wrote: Welcome to KVR, by the way! Where comparison discussions often lead to senseless verbal assaults, and cat pictures
Sums up my impression.
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get 2 pc's one for surfing the net and business and one dedicated for duty as a DAW.

This you can do for about what you spend on a mac. Now you have redundant computer power and you can even play with using both at the same time using reapers ability to network and run on multiple computers. Learn Reaper just for this and rewire it in sonar.

You can then spend $149 on the producer upgrade and save $350 which you can use to add some nice plug ins.

I plan on upgrading from x2a to x3 very soon. The inclusion of melodyne addictive drums and the nomad bundle is just too much firepower to say no to. the $150 is less than what it would cost to just add addictive drums and melodyne essential let alone the Nomad stuff plus other bonuses and a newer version of a DAW you already know and understand.

You could add the more expensive versions of melodyne with the money you save.

Upgrade specials on it will probably materialize this holiday season and then again Breverb and TH2 will probably be on sale for us Sonar users as well. The money we save for going with Sonar is substantial and amounts to sonar being free for us anyway.

I have no desire to go MAC. I am familiar with the ins and outs of windows 8 and using it in 64 bits with 8 gb of memory and I will add another PC soon as well so I can have 2 computers so one can be tweaked to serve as my main daw. I paid
about $700 for my I7 laptop and it smokes.

Only time I experience a crash is when I am on the net and using it at the same time or have a million browsers open. To me that is my fault for doing things like that but a 2nd computer solves that problem and that makes more sense to me.

Organize your vst's and synths better, build out track templates get your drum maps going with AD and then start building up some tracks you will be way into your music before you know it and happy you stuck with Sonar because otherwise you will be months behind trying to learn another program when you could be making music.

Then chances are that program is probably just as buggy and the forums at cakewalk are filled with very helpful and generous people. Would you find that much support at another daws forum? Seems to me the early reviews on the cake forums are majorly positive so they probably fixed all the past problems.

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You can also just bid on Sonar X3 in the charity thread, there are two licenses up with the lowest bid at $75. SonarX3 for $80 might do it... :-)
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Build you a PC . As for hosts , demo some of them or just stick with what you know already . At the end of the day they all do the same thing .

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The (3) above responses to your original post are all excellent, Mondaydave. Valuable information and advice, indeed.

Again: unless there is a compelling reason beyond simple gear lust, stay with what you know, and build upon it.

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Some good advice here, Thanks for all the input.

I guess at the end of the day all DAW'S do the same job.
I think I'll stick with what I know for now and demo X3 and hopefully stability has improved.

I will admit to being a sufferer of "Gear Lust" as mentioned by goldenanalog.
I bet I'm not the only one but I think it does get in the way of the whole point which is making music ;o)

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wesleyt wrote:
Even before Logic's price reduction, it was an incredible value, when you consider its complete included effects, high-quality synthesizers, and sampled instruments.

I think Logic is a standard because it's a complete, high quality, stable DAW, that is easy to use once you're over the initial learning curve.
This. But, if you don't already own a Mac or PB, then you're kind of back at square one.

Interesting dilemma, but as far as bang for the buck I think one needs to look at Studio One or Reaper to compete with Logic.

Of course, if you prefer the workflow or "vibe" of another DAW, the difference in price might not actually be that significant, so...:shrug:

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mondaydave wrote:Some good advice here, Thanks for all the input.

I guess at the end of the day all DAW'S do the same job.
I think I'll stick with what I know for now and demo X3 and hopefully stability has improved.

I will admit to being a sufferer of "Gear Lust" as mentioned by goldenanalog.
I bet I'm not the only one but I think it does get in the way of the whole point which is making music ;o)
If your current version is unreliable as you say, demo the new version carefully before buying... being nervous about crashes is not conducive to playing music freely and enjoyably!

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