Why is asio4all so complicated?

[Functional]

Hey KVR-folks!

To briefly explain my question;

I purchased recently Cubase 7 now alongside with Ableton. And I'm starting to get tired of Asio4all mess as I don't want to run Ableton as a slave for cubase and instead use them both.

Problem comes down to the fact that asio4all is always dedicated. Is there honestly any way to have it so, that I could use both simultaneously with asio4all instead of directX? Or do I have to get an audio interface that possibly would support both? I currently do have m-audio fast track II (which I'll replace eventually since my needs are further now).

I've tried setting the dedicated mode off for my sound, but it's still dedicated. I always have to set my default audio device to something else than my M-audio line if I want to use Asio4all as well. So whenever I use cubase/ableton, I can't use the other nor can I hear anything else either.

Is this really just a sad reality of it? It's not really a big deal, but it does tick me off more and more as the annoyance accumulates over time

EDIT: A small correction, I use M-Audio USB Asio, not asio4all, but both give the same mess for me, the other obviously gives more latency as it's software based

[sebaden]

you should buy a soundcard with true ASIO multiclient drivers or try out steinbergs software approach with asio4all or whatever driver:

ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Download/Hardwa ... nt_driver/

[SLiC]

Hey KVR-folks!

To briefly explain my question;

I purchased recently Cubase 7 now alongside with Ableton. And I'm starting to get tired of Asio4all mess as I don't want to run Ableton as a slave for cubase and instead use them both.

Problem comes down to the fact that asio4all is always dedicated. Is there honestly any way to have it so, that I could use both simultaneously with asio4all instead of directX? Or do I have to get an audio interface that possibly would support both? I currently do have m-audio fast track II (which I'll replace eventually since my needs are further now).

I've tried setting the dedicated mode off for my sound, but it's still dedicated. I always have to set my default audio device to something else than my M-audio line if I want to use Asio4all as well. So whenever I use cubase/ableton, I can't use the other nor can I hear anything else either.

Is this really just a sad reality of it? It's not really a big deal, but it does tick me off more and more as the annoyance accumulates over time

EDIT: A small correction, I use M-Audio USB Asio, not asio4all, but both give the same mess for me, the other obviously gives more latency as it's software based

You don't need any special drivers/hardware to run live and cubase, just use rewire?

If you have spent over 700 dollars on software, I would recommend descent audio hardware....try something by RME, it's multi client, low latency and rock solid.

[Functional]

you should buy a soundcard with true ASIO multiclient drivers or try out steinbergs software approach with asio4all or whatever driver:

ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Download/Hardwa ... nt_driver/

Hmm, perhaps I should indeed try that. Even if it increases my latency a bit, I'll probably manage to live with that for now until I get such a soundcard.

You don't need any special drivers/hardware to run live and cubase, just use rewire?

If you have spent over 700 dollars on software, I would recommend descent audio hardware....try something by RME, it's multi client, low latency and rock solid.

Rewiring live causes Live to lose VST support, which kind of defeats the point that I'm going at - as I do most of my sequencing with live, especially when it comes to drums.

I could create a complex scheme where I route midi from ableton to cubase, but honestly it would take dramatic amount of time. And I have couple, very specific VST's that ableton does not have and that I'd need desperately for the transients.

Thanks for the RME suggestion, though it's not quite in my pricerange unfortunately. As I'm a student, I get the discount on software (which I actually do use for educational purposes!), but I have to make compromises on the hardware department. Though the current interface I'm looking for should give me at least two independent stereo outputs + mono output and at least four mono inputs (one has to be XLR). Unfortunately, it'll probably take awhile until I can afford anything that has those capabilities + multiclient.