Cycle: spectral granular synthesizer
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- KVRian
- 991 posts since 9 Feb, 2013 from dallas tx
FLP means fruity loops right? What if I do not have that program since I am using Sonar?
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- KVRAF
- 24403 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Cycle is a VST instrument and can be used in any DAW. FL Studio has nothing to do with it (but it is a consideration DavenH could make - FLP is an extension already used by FL Studio, so it wouldn't be wise if Cycle used it for its own files).
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- KVRian
- 991 posts since 9 Feb, 2013 from dallas tx
no I think he is making certain FLP files available that he used to create the demos and saying we can have these to recreate the sound on the demos. At least that was what it sounded like to me but in order to open these files don't you have to have the authorized version and not just the demo version?
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- KVRAF
- 24403 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
You can open FL Studio projects in the demo too, IIRC.
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- KVRian
- 989 posts since 27 Jun, 2011
But then by all means get it now. It's dual and the same price as a single will be later. The ony reason not to get it now is if you don't have any use for the dual license at all. If you want to get dual anyway, there's no better price than now and no point in waiting.aMUSEd wrote:I'm not only a Mac user, I'm just primarily a Mac user. So I would be interested in a dual license and always buy for both platforms just in case I switch back (as I'm also a relatively recent convert), but since I am primarily a Mac user at the moment at least I would like to test it works on my primary platform, Mac, before I buy a dual license, as Windows users have been able to do on their primary platform for a while now (even those buying the dual license). I don't see why that is unreasonable, or why you think it is "unfair" to Windows users for the price not to go up the instant the Mac version is out.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 759 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Fredericton NB
This is what I meant. You will be able to open the FLPs if the demo is installed (it's called Cycle.dll either way, FL doesn't know one from the other).yessongs wrote:no I think he is making certain FLP files available that he used to create the demos and saying we can have these to recreate the sound on the demos. At least that was what it sounded like to me but in order to open these files don't you have to have the authorized version and not just the demo version?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 759 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Fredericton NB
He wants to demo it first, and by all means he should. Especially because at present it's not stable on all systems. I see your point Amused, but if you will see mine, I just don't see a way to deliver on every front.wasi wrote:But then by all means get it now. It's dual and the same price as a single will be later. The ony reason not to get it now is if you don't have any use for the dual license at all. If you want to get dual anyway, there's no better price than now and no point in waiting.aMUSEd wrote:I'm not only a Mac user, I'm just primarily a Mac user. So I would be interested in a dual license and always buy for both platforms just in case I switch back (as I'm also a relatively recent convert), but since I am primarily a Mac user at the moment at least I would like to test it works on my primary platform, Mac, before I buy a dual license, as Windows users have been able to do on their primary platform for a while now (even those buying the dual license). I don't see why that is unreasonable, or why you think it is "unfair" to Windows users for the price not to go up the instant the Mac version is out.
If there's no premium on the dual license after the PC intro offer in effect, then PC users can effectively circumvent the offer deadline. And in effect, that is renegging on the previous agreement made with PC users who have already taken advantage of it. So I have the choice of renegging or adjusting the dual license price, which is no choice at all.
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- KVRAF
- 1800 posts since 10 Feb, 2007
I had the same question, one page before you.dalor wrote:Can I ask what copy protection does it use?
This was the answer:
No C/R just a serial key and no connection requirement.
It's easily keygen-able frankly, but one consolation is users without keys that don't associate with a purchase won't be able to access community presets. After like 256 factory presets I intend to publish the rest via the community sharing so paying users will be rewarded with content the illegitimate users can't access.
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- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
Thanks manductormanducator wrote:I had the same question, one page before you.dalor wrote:Can I ask what copy protection does it use?
This was the answer:
No C/R just a serial key and no connection requirement.
It's easily keygen-able frankly, but one consolation is users without keys that don't associate with a purchase won't be able to access community presets. After like 256 factory presets I intend to publish the rest via the community sharing so paying users will be rewarded with content the illegitimate users can't access.
sounds like a good concept!-
- KVRAF
- 37378 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Sorry but I really can't see your point at all - it seems arbitrary and illogical. I know it's only $10 but the principal sucks - it just seems like you're making Mac users lose out just to please a few early adopters who have already benefited from the fact that it was out on Windows first and got in on an early dual price that is never going to be offered to Mac users unless they are willing to chance that it will work without even a demo. The logical way forward would at least be to make a demo version available to Mac users before the release and price change.DavenH wrote:He wants to demo it first, and by all means he should. Especially because at present it's not stable on all systems. I see your point Amused, but if you will see mine, I just don't see a way to deliver on every front.wasi wrote:But then by all means get it now. It's dual and the same price as a single will be later. The ony reason not to get it now is if you don't have any use for the dual license at all. If you want to get dual anyway, there's no better price than now and no point in waiting.aMUSEd wrote:I'm not only a Mac user, I'm just primarily a Mac user. So I would be interested in a dual license and always buy for both platforms just in case I switch back (as I'm also a relatively recent convert), but since I am primarily a Mac user at the moment at least I would like to test it works on my primary platform, Mac, before I buy a dual license, as Windows users have been able to do on their primary platform for a while now (even those buying the dual license). I don't see why that is unreasonable, or why you think it is "unfair" to Windows users for the price not to go up the instant the Mac version is out.
If there's no premium on the dual license after the PC intro offer in effect, then PC users can effectively circumvent the offer deadline. And in effect, that is renegging on the previous agreement made with PC users who have already taken advantage of it. So I have the choice of renegging or adjusting the dual license price, which is no choice at all.
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shayanjameel08 shayanjameel08 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=314224
- KVRer
- 7 posts since 12 Oct, 2013
I wanted people to have a listen without being distracted.
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- KVRian
- 991 posts since 9 Feb, 2013 from dallas tx
Why I like and think this business model works? If you have a technically demanding learning curve on a type of synthesis them those who develop presets are very valuable to you since it is unlikely that the mass of end users ever develops time enough to explore it. That being said the casual user would only buy a synth if there were a lot of usable presets and the only way to get thousands of usable presets is to engage the sound design community in such a way that they develop the content for you. Brilliant marketing concept my hat is off to you on thinking through the economics on this and it does remind me of how Bulent is doing things with Synthmaster. If it works your going to be very rich. Here is to both of you guys making millions of dollars. The quality of sound in Cycle is amazing.
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- KVRian
- 1051 posts since 31 Mar, 2012
Sounds awesome. I am also on the Mac, but I'm using Parallels to demo. Not even much latency (with Parallels there's often a lot with other plugs).
Have you decided on a resale policy? Can I sell the license to someone else if it's not working for me?
I rarely part with anything, but with some 35 synths under my belt, I'd like to know there is some way to recover my investment if it falls into disuse.
Have you decided on a resale policy? Can I sell the license to someone else if it's not working for me?
I rarely part with anything, but with some 35 synths under my belt, I'd like to know there is some way to recover my investment if it falls into disuse.
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- KVRAF
- 37378 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
What is this business model you refer to? How is it engaging the sound design community?yessongs wrote:Why I like and think this business model works? If you have a technically demanding learning curve on a type of synthesis them those who develop presets are very valuable to you since it is unlikely that the mass of end users ever develops time enough to explore it. That being said the casual user would only buy a synth if there were a lot of usable presets and the only way to get thousands of usable presets is to engage the sound design community in such a way that they develop the content for you. Brilliant marketing concept ...