Am I The ONLY Person Who Finds FL Studio EXCEEDINGLY HARD To Understand And Use?

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Kati Maya wrote:
rp314 wrote:Regarding the original topic I think that many testimonials here and elsewhere are of relative worth since they often come from folks who have been using a program for too long to be able to tell how difficult it is, specially for someone who is just starting out and is learning the rudiments of music.
Yes I have to say that FL *is* difficult when you're just starting out...but I think it's very much worth learning...
But, leaving aside my generalization, couldn't that be said about all the DAWs that have survived the 'test of time' (albeit in relatively modest computer software terms :hihi:)?

The point that some software is easier to use is obviously somewhat biased, and may not be the main consideration of folks who are getting involved in so-called artistic endeavors anyway. But none of that means that those who use a particular DAW somehow are confused humans who are unable to switch over to better software in the long run.

As I've said many times, this is a mostly personal decision that involves figuring out one's musical goals, having to deal with the usual budgetary constraints, etc.

I learned to do music notation using Finale 3.0 on a Mac around 20 years ago. When folks talk about a certain program being difficult to use I always think back to its famously daunting learning curve. And, no, the results were not exactly "professional looking". :lol:

Pick a damn DAW - learn to use it - complain about the bugs - consider the alternatives - and then go back to making music. :D

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FL is dead easy to use - one of the easiest (arguably the easiest) DAWs to work with. You can learn making basic stuff in a matter of minutes and the results are almost instant. If you can't master that, you have very low chances to learn working with anything else.
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idfpower wrote:FL is dead easy to use - one of the easiest (arguably the easiest) DAWs to work with. You can learn making basic stuff in a matter of minutes and the results are almost instant. If you can't master that, you have very low chances to learn working with anything else.
To be honest, i agree. The few times i used FL Studio, back when it was called Fruity Loops ;), i found it very easy to use. Of course i could be wrong, and it gets difficult when you dive into it deeper, but i can't imagine so.

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I'm getting about ready to load up the x64 beta maybe. I dunno, every time I load it up it's like ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGG. But I do a ton of audio recordings too and live and S1 just hit the mark.

BUT, since I own a lifetime license I dust it off from time to time :hihi:

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Kati Maya wrote:You can do a lot more with FL than with many other DAWs.
We're still waiting for you to prove this assertion, LOL.

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When I started using it I found it easy. However, I had recently graduated from school with a diploma in music recording and I read the manual front to back several times. I also asked questions on the FL forum. 13 years later and I am still learning to do new things with it. Still haven't used half the functions. You can do so many things with it and the flow is not streamlined as in a typical DAW. There are a gazillion YouTube videos made by Imageline. I love it. I use it to "make beats". For audio recording I use Studio One Pro V2 and I feel I have the best of both worlds. I'd also use Studio One for Mastering. But I'd be able to get by with Edison in FL (for recording audio).
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I reckon that most vigorous advocates of this program have little clue what I'm even saying [...] It's a very clunky design [...] It's nothing special
If you don't like it, then don't use it, but please don't go talking about it in factually incorrect ways like "it doesn't show dB level". I'd hardly claim to be a "vigorous advocate". But I get irritated when people outright spread misinformation.

It's called FL "Studio Producer", not "Jerry Garcia's Experimental Jam Session Improvisation Helper". I don't think it's intended for whatever kind of non-genre stuff you are making.

So drop the elitist attitude...the best artists don't focus on stroking their own egos but rather on creating music that forms emotional bonds with those who listen to it.
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I went through this bs over at the sonar thread, I'll leave you to it.

Also, IBTT (someone is going to use the T word eventually :hihi: )

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rp314 wrote:
Kati Maya wrote:
rp314 wrote:Regarding the original topic I think that many testimonials here and elsewhere are of relative worth since they often come from folks who have been using a program for too long to be able to tell how difficult it is, specially for someone who is just starting out and is learning the rudiments of music.
Yes I have to say that FL *is* difficult when you're just starting out...but I think it's very much worth learning...
But, leaving aside my generalization, couldn't that be said about all the DAWs that have survived the 'test of time' (albeit in relatively modest computer software terms :hihi:)?

I learned to do music notation using Finale 3.0 on a Mac around 20 years ago. When folks talk about a certain program being difficult to use I always think back to its famously daunting learning curve. And, no, the results were not exactly "professional looking". :lol:
Pretty much, I see this as equivalent to when I was learning Photoshop/C++ etc...

Sure you can edit some images in MS Paint and can code some stuff in Visual Basic...but if you want to get pro results you have to learn tools that are not very intuitive but upon mastery give you extreme flexibility in obtaining the end result that you're really after.

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V'ger wrote:
Kati Maya wrote:You can do a lot more with FL than with many other DAWs.
We're still waiting for you to prove this assertion, LOL.
I don't have to "prove" anything to you, I'm just basing this on my own observations and experiences. The opinion is my own, and YMMV.

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I wonder how many people actually tought a(ny) DAW to complete novices?

I did it two times, in both cases starting with FLS. The "pupils" didn't understand nothing... one got hooked to the cutoff-knob (everyone likes to tweak it) and lost attention to the other stuff; the other guy fell silent because of the challenging mass of technical vocabulary that rained on him.

To shorten the story: no DAW is "easy".
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EnergyXt is probably the easiest to start with.
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Kati Maya wrote:
V'ger wrote:
Kati Maya wrote:You can do a lot more with FL than with many other DAWs.
We're still waiting for you to prove this assertion, LOL.
I don't have to "prove" anything to you, I'm just basing this on my own observations and experiences. The opinion is my own, and YMMV.
Ok then all that remains is to show where you said this outrageous claim was your opinion. If this was not really said and you can't really back up the claim, you have to say it was a silly, elitist thing to say. Remember "the best artists don't focus on stroking their own egos but rather on creating music that forms emotional bonds with those who listen to it." LOL

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elassi wrote:To shorten the story: no DAW is "easy".
Well...acid xpress is pretty easy...LOL. Perhaps you meant professional DAW, as there are plenty of "easy" consumer DAWs like eJay and GarageBand etc.

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Kati Maya wrote:Well...acid xpress is pretty easy...LOL. Perhaps you meant professional DAW, as there are plenty of "easy" consumer DAWs like eJay and GarageBand etc.
Guess we don't want to enter ludicrous dimensions. Right?

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