Show me some melody in modern electronic music.

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jancivil wrote:
While I like this sort of thing a lot, it's not really EDM so I'm not quite sure why you're posting it here. Perhaps, as I'm fairly certain you know what you're posting, you could elaborate in more detail on the style and its history. At any rate, what I notice about it, and this isn't the first time that I've observed this, is that there is a LOT of variance in the timing over time. I'm too busy to talk about this in detail right now, but I have done some analysis of music like this and this is easy to show the differences that I'm talking about objectively. Because there isn't a solid metronomic base, this doesn't succeed in the same way that house does as either an aid to inducing the kinds of "trance states", whatever they might actually be, that I'm talking about.

I think looped, it would be awesome, however, precisely because the rhythmic variation is so interesting. I especially like the part at about 23:20 and again at about 24:02 where they are, themselves, looping their own part. Very nice. At times it's really hypnotic, but then it loses it owing to long term variation.

I think that one of the reasons that James Brown is so successful, in fact, is that his drummer(s) were so good. My sense here is that the difference that matters is measured in milliseconds in terms of variance. Again, though, that's just a conjecture, I might be completely wrong.

A nice little take on James' drummers and their skill
White, English drummers in their twenties; I sometimes wonder if there's a more musically ignorant breed to sit behind a drum set - including myself at that time of life. They think that listening to a few Chili Peppers or Living Colour CD's gives them a handle on 'Funk' drumming; as I was to discover for myself, this is so not the case. A few basic syncopated, heavily executed Rock grooves under ones belt does not turn you into Zigaboo Modeliste overnight; it takes another decade, if you're lucky, for the penny to drop on what is Funk drumming.
http://www.thedrumdoctor.net/inspired/t ... ames-brown
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Clyde telling it like it is. Be sure to listen to a bit past the brief interview for some nice minimal funk. This is where it's at, tons of groove and feel, yet the drumming is restrained and teeeeight! No wonder Clyde's been sampled thousands of times.


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A.M. Gold wrote: I need to know for my own career purposes how much of a stretch it might be to market my own form of melodic EDM, so I want a frame of reference for that.
Is it naive to ask why you would bother to make music you only would do for market purposes, and not because you like the music, or like producing the music? I don't really get your intention, neither do i get the intention of this thread. If you want to dive into melodic EDM, then you better have a good understanding and knowledge of the music you're making, asking on an internet forum tells a big story. :? My advice would be to forget the idea, or get your homework done. Sorry for the harsh words, but this seems silly.

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chk071 wrote:
A.M. Gold wrote: I need to know for my own career purposes how much of a stretch it might be to market my own form of melodic EDM, so I want a frame of reference for that.
Is it naive to ask why you would bother to make music you only would do for market purposes, and not because you like the music, or like producing the music? I don't really get your intention, neither do i get the intention of this thread. If you want to dive into melodic EDM, then you better have a good understanding and knowledge of the music you're making, asking on an internet forum tells a big story. :? My advice would be to forget the idea, or get your homework done. Sorry for the harsh words, but this seems silly.
I think that, in fairness, the question was more like "I make this kind of music that I really love but I'm not familiar with the EDM market and I wonder if there is any appreciation within that market for what I do." In other words, the question isn't "how do I sell to the EDM market", but more like "can I sell to the EDM market."

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Ok, sorry if i got that wrong then. Actually, i'm pretty puzzled about the OP, so maybe better to keep out of this discussion completely. :oops:

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Anything by Plaid. They pretty much make everyone else look like soulless hacks. (including me) ;)

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If you can listen to this album without crying you have no soul. Fact. :)

-Sam

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Anything is possible in electronic music. No promise you'll be popular. But we all know by now popularity doesn't mean anything at all. I would think my favorites, Ayria and Neuroticfish are pretty melodic, but that really depends on personal views I guess

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HeidiLikesEBM wrote:Anything is possible in electronic music. No promise you'll be popular. But we all know by now popularity doesn't mean anything at all. I would think my favorites, Ayria and Neuroticfish are pretty melodic, but that really depends on personal views I guess
N0. It means alot. Just like always in church music.

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If we're talking EDM and associated genres (i don't really understand those genres), i love Photophob:



Herwig Hozmann's stuff is all across the field, but that one is my all-time favorite track of his. It's very melodic, IMO. i like music i can sing to (or hum), so melody matters a lot to me and i tend not to like dance music for the lack of a strong melody. i find most dance genres to be too structurally "flat" for me, which i guess is why i am attracted to verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus and related stuff, which dance styles seem to either lack or do in a way that i don't tend to click with. But i LOVE this guy's work.

Also: i don't know how "electronic" (or relevant) you will find it, but i find that one of the reasons i'm attracted to Nine Inch Nails so much is due to it often utilizing traditional song structure(?) and being very melodic, while also being very synthy and noisy. i mean, there're a ton of bands writing traditional structured songs with melodies, but i prefer creative sounds/noises and intense emotion, so i lean more toward synth-rock stuff (the singy, not death-metal shouty, stuff). But, of course, the strength of the melodies and amount of "electronic-ness" in NIN does vary from song to song; YMMV, it's all taste, etc., et cetera, you know. Also check out Trent Reznor's soundtrack work if you're looking for more classical(?) structures that are always instrumental.



EDIT: in a soundtrack mindset, i'll plug myself, too ;-) https://soundcloud.com/dysamoria/dysamo ... nyone-else and https://soundcloud.com/dysamoria/dysamo ... h-oh-three ... but i'm not EDM at all, am not published, and can't say if i'm marketable, and probably wont ever try to make money on music... but they're examples of what i think is electronic, with melodic focus.
- dysamoria.com
my music @ SoundCloud

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To paraphrase Gamma UT, I think melodies (even much chordal variation) don't really belong in techno and similar styles. They tend to sound distracting and cheesy to to the point where they can destroy a track for me.

As for just about any other genre predominantly created with the aid of electronic devices, there's so much melodic invention and unforgettable harmonies out there I can't even begin to list examples...

Marco :)

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