KVR Audio

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:31 pm

Keith99 wrote:Well I went and bought it and very glad I did too! After the normal process of applying it to everything and over doing it I am finding it excellent especially on the drum buss and even a touch at mixdown. The controls are really useful at tweaking the sound just perfect. Looks like it has sorted out my high end troubles as well. They say there are no magic bullets in audio but this is certainly close!

Yeah, I'll take what I can get. I'm not one to get caught up in the "flux capacitor E=MCsquared" talk of it personally. If it makes me smile when I use it, then it's good

metamorphosis · Post by **metamorphosis** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:22 am

I think it's interesting but not a patch on VTM.

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:04 am

Urs wrote:
mkdr wrote:Good for people who don't have EQ's
I can't believe Sascha spent a whole year on a lousy EQ

I think yer profitability plan is too old-fashioned Urs. Next time jus' do a passive EQ and call it a "console sim!"

Lemmy Koopa · Post by **Lemmy Koopa** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:00 am

Can Satin emulate a lofi cassette tape?

Kindred · Post by **Kindred** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:02 am

metamorphosis wrote:I think it's interesting but not a patch on VTM.

Interesting - I own both and think the exact opposite. For VTM to work, I need a very specific sound as the source material or it doesn't quite work. With Satin's level of tweakability, I can get what I want - plus there are a few presets where you just slap them on anything and they bring a smile to your face

sascha · Post by **sascha** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:40 am

Lemmy Koopa wrote:Can Satin emulate a lofi cassette tape?

Since v1.1, it can speed down to 1.875 ips (3.76cm/s), with all the bad things involved. Frequency response changes, pre-emphasis changes, noise changes, wow & flutter and asperity changes, all that stuff.

All good, but mind you, we're not modelling a cassette device. We're modelling a studio machine at arbitrary speed (in fact, Satin gets a bit out-of-specs below, say, 4 ips. At least it's leaving its 'comfort zone' there, which is normal and just complies with physics.).
The results will still be different from cassette tape, mainly because of different transport and a different repro-head gap. The latter is between 1 and 5 µm here, equaling a studio-machine repro head. Cassette heads have way smaller gap widths (especially the 3-head designs), therefore the frequency response (due to gap loss) is not exactly the same. But the main principles remain and the sonic results are comparable.

I'd suggest you to try and hear for yourself. Consult the manual to find out how and especially why this all works, and how to achieve a certain sound.

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:37 pm

it would be nice to have an alternate method to specify
the MIDI note that triggers the tape flange ...

many times i don't have a controller available , and am working w/
a pianoroll ... perhaps a default of C0 ?... or a text field input ?...

J4R1O · Post by **J4R1O** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:29 pm

sascha wrote:Since v1.1, it can speed down to 1.875 ips (3.76cm/s), with all the bad things involved.

Thank you for those bad things! They sound so damn good!

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:47 pm

normal wrote:it would be nice to have an alternate method to specify
the MIDI note that triggers the tape flange ...

many times i don't have a controller available , and am working w/
a pianoroll ... perhaps a default of C0 ?... or a text field input ?...

Good idea! Will convey thus to our ever growing todo list

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:47 pm

Urs wrote:
normal wrote:it would be nice to have an alternate method to specify
the MIDI note that triggers the tape flange ...

many times i don't have a controller available , and am working w/
a pianoroll ... perhaps a default of C0 ?... or a text field input ?...
Good idea! Will convey thus to our ever growing todo list

thanks for your consideration ...

Keith99 · Post by **Keith99** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:42 pm

Just got to say this plugin is amazing

I was trying to work out why a vocal on one of my tracks was so much better than the other and realised it was because the good track had Satin on it . I used the SR Vocal Bus Preset tweaked a bit. It totally opens up the top end and adds a sheen , tricky to describe but without it the voice is dull. One thing though is you do need to be careful with the level you feed it. Same preset with different gains sounds quite different, there is a sweet spot maybe around -18db RMS.

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:00 pm

Christmas shopping is in the way of buying Satin I keep having a go with the demo I really want the chorus in Satin. I'm working out who I don't have to buy gifts for.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:10 pm

I'll allow you to take me off of your list, I want you to be able to enjoy satin

megapiano · Post by **megapiano** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:09 am

Kindred wrote:
Interesting - I own both and think the exact opposite. For VTM to work, I need a very specific sound as the source material or it doesn't quite work. With Satin's level of tweakability, I can get what I want - plus there are a few presets where you just slap them on anything and they bring a smile to your face

Hi...I am curious...can you give some examples of those presets "where you just slap them on anything and they bring a smile to your face?" Thanks.

Kindred · Post by **Kindred** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:20 am

megapiano wrote:
Kindred wrote:
Interesting - I own both and think the exact opposite. For VTM to work, I need a very specific sound as the source material or it doesn't quite work. With Satin's level of tweakability, I can get what I want - plus there are a few presets where you just slap them on anything and they bring a smile to your face
Hi...I am curious...can you give some examples of those presets "where you just slap them on anything and they bring a smile to your face?" Thanks.

I'm not at the studio at the moment so can't bring it up, but from memory, in the 'studio' section, third preset from the top was a doozy from memory. Will confirm once I am back in the studio...cheers

Satin OMG