Waldorf Pulse 2: officially released (OS updated to v1.18)

[Goldenage2012]

I guess it fits perfectly into your quote " music is spiritual. Music business is not"

I really love the sound of pulses 2 sound waves, would be really good to hear their take on the midi cc's, i know that having to redo all the cc implementation can be a hard but with all their software technology i doubt it would be that hard if they really want too, at least for the fundamental controls that was mention.

Ill pay 50 bucks for such an update if money is the issue.

[acidfever]

Going from 7 bit to 14 obviously requires a degree of reprogramming but this shouldn't be all that big of an issue software wise.

The question if the hardware can support it is a different one, I cannot predict this. I know the bass station 2 has 14 bit midi resolution for several of the controls so I cannot see why the 6 encoders on the Pulse 2 wouldn't be able to support this (besides if the encoders themselves simply don't support it).

It would be a bit of a bad decision from Waldorf when you realize that the Pulse 2 already has limited controls to begin with. But on the other hand....it doesn't cripple the synth and I suspect something like knob smoothing is being aplied since the stepping is not or hardly noticable most of the time.

[namnibor]

Well, now I absolutely need to wait until Sweetwater has it regularly in stock to have a demo there to twiddle knobs and hear in person. Have a Pulse+ and would like to see someone have the Pulse 2 and Classic Pulse+ connected and also to hear nuances of osc's and filters.

Still wondering if the new encoders have a deep menu-hidden "behavior/response settings"...as full midi spec'd the Classic Pulse is, one would think it's newer incarnation would not have stepping...am also really surprised after following this thread for a while it's first time it's been brought-up, even by beta testers?!

[acidfever]

Still wondering if the new encoders have a deep menu-hidden "behavior/response settings"...as full midi spec'd the Classic Pulse is, one would think it's newer incarnation would not have stepping...am also really surprised after following this thread for a while it's first time it's been brought-up, even by beta testers?!

Don't you guys have a trial period with internet sales over there? Over here more and more shops allow you to return a product (in it's original state) for a period of one or two months (better yet...for internet sales there is a period of 7 or 14 days where you can return it no questions asked, required by law). If you are not 100% sure this is an ideal solution since you effectively have a 1 or 2 month demo.

Why the no 14 bit data wasn't mentioned before? Well....I think the reason is that because in use, it's really not an issue.

[Tupapupa]

thats it, if i would have heard something like that i would have mentioned it here

(because the waldorf programer is reading and posting here in this thread )

[Goldenage2012]

You can hear the stepping anywhere from 100 up in resonance. Off course you have to move the cut of slowly to hear it.
I really like slow swipes of the cut off, so adjusting the filter envelope slowly with the resonance up i can hear.

Basically every time you hear self oscillation of the resonance, if you move the cut off or the filter envelope slowly you can hear stepping.

Its really not a case of sending back my unit cause i really like its sound, but isn't this the place to discuss this things?
Should we just be quiet about what we think could be improved?

Its not only the stepping, as you know 128 possible sounds is not better then a resolution of (14bit)16,384 values, so around 16,200 more possible timbers, sounds, harmonics..
Maybe we just all don't use our synths the same way but if this could be done a lot of people would be very happy, so discussing it in a creative positive way should be important.

[Hermetech Mastering]

i'd say if you can't slowly manually sweep the pulse ii filter without stepping, then it's not good enough for me. maybe fine for some people though.

too bad, as i was saving up for one...

[sqigls]

i'd like finer resolution too, but for $600, i think it's a top synth.

[namnibor]

Still wondering if the new encoders have a deep menu-hidden "behavior/response settings"...as full midi spec'd the Classic Pulse is, one would think it's newer incarnation would not have stepping...am also really surprised after following this thread for a while it's first time it's been brought-up, even by beta testers?!

Don't you guys have a trial period with internet sales over there? Over here more and more shops allow you to return a product (in it's original state) for a period of one or two months (better yet...for internet sales there is a period of 7 or 14 days where you can return it no questions asked, required by law). If you are not 100% sure this is an ideal solution since you effectively have a 1 or 2 month demo.

Why the no 14 bit data wasn't mentioned before? Well....I think the reason is that because in use, it's really not an issue.

Used to, but more and more sellers/retail, internet or otherwise, NOW have a disclaimer that they can charge 25% **restocking fees**, for a return for ANY reason.

Why?

Because, unfortunately, there's a preponderance of buyers that were/are taking advantage of such gratuitous return policies and simply using it to "demo gear", making those of us that would otherwise have to drive a few hours, like me, to even get to Sweetwater, one of the best sellers in USA.

That's why I have followed this thread since beginning, because I am eventually going to test Pulse 2 out at Sweetwater, but not buying without a great background of information as posted here.

For reasons stated above, is very reason I have been "stuck" with an Elektron Analog Four because little did I know that Musician's Friend is actually owned by Guitar Center now, and am just hoping whenever the next O.S. update is, they add midi out and full midi specs...AND a better written manual...machine has tons of potential but my Quasimidi Polymorph is a much more capable sequencer, as is the step sequencer on my Waldorf Q...just could not accept losing 25% restocking fee on Analog Four, as that would be over $250. USD....so am being very careful now when/where buying gear these days.

Could someone post an audio example of sweeping the resonance/freq. of the filters on Pulse 2 please?
Also, is the O.S. the Pulse 2 ships with (early O.S.) the "better choice" or is Waldorf still sorting O.S., as read here that the newest 1.13 made more problems to where people went back to 1.11???
Thanks!

[Tupapupa]

I dont know with wich version the pulse is now shipped, but the "new" V1.13 is nearly bug free


i did a sweep demo, first a short normal use sweep, then a very long sweep and there is indeed something like steps hearable
but for me that doesnt matter such long sweeps i dont use

http://soundcloud.com/the-trooper-1/pulse-2-sweep

[lalo]

I dont know with wich version the pulse is now shipped, but the "new" V1.13 is nearly bug free


i did a sweep demo, first a short normal use sweep, then a very long sweep and there is indeed something like steps hearable
but for me that doesnt matter such long sweeps i dont use

http://soundcloud.com/the-trooper-1/pulse-2-sweep

too step-ish for me. i need smooth stuff. i'll wait for new Largo

[zerocrossing]

i'd like finer resolution too, but for $600, i think it's a top synth.

$600? I've not seen it cheaper than $800 in the USA. Where did you get it for $600?

[sqigls]

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/waldorf- ... redirect=1

[namnibor]

Thanks for those audio examples! I still want to play one in a store and would LOVE to see a video where someone has put to practical use, Pulse 2's cv/gate out...as it would sure have been handy to have cv/gate IN as well and surely THAT would not be enough for Waldorf to make the Pulse 2+....perhaps the talked about keyboard version of Pulse 2 will.

[acidfever]

I dont know with wich version the pulse is now shipped, but the "new" V1.13 is nearly bug free


i did a sweep demo, first a short normal use sweep, then a very long sweep and there is indeed something like steps hearable
but for me that doesnt matter such long sweeps i dont use

http://soundcloud.com/the-trooper-1/pulse-2-sweep

I have to agree, when you hear it like this it is pretty awful!

I guess I just started tweaking with the device instead of doing all sorts of tests and I liked what I heard. Luckily I never use extremely long filter sweeps like this one.

But it is obvious that Waldorf should have chosen 14 bit for the parameters.