KVR Audio

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:25 pm

Rere wrote:I want to say thanks in advance, and just an request for people with dial-up modems like me...
Please do not use zip, "rar" them instead, in multiple smaller volumes with máximum audio compression.
This makes it easier to download, and in the event that one of the volumes wouldn't properly extract, you don't have to download the whole lot again.
I have some kits recorded by myself too, in certain recording sessions for other people, from some time ago, that I'm seriously considering to make public some day, when I could eventually sort out the bandwidth issue. (100MB to 380MB uncompressed)
Best luck!

Rere

I can host the big files here free if anyone with samples (and needs the space and bandwidth) is interested:

http://dspevo.com/Harmony_Counterpoint/index.php

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)

mabi · Post by **mabi** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:25 pm

Great great great!! The demos sound realy great!!
Please bring it on soon...I can't wait to download it!!! Thanks so much man!

Bye the way: how many velocity layers are there?

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:39 pm

Kingston wrote: Supported formats:
EXS24 mkII
Halion 2
Kontakt 1.5.2
DR-008
.WAV
Soundfont 2

I checked the website, and these sound very nice! I'm looking forward to their release. I'm impressed that the file sizes are fairly modest, (they should fit into my RAM), while the quality of the sound is very impressive.

Here's two suggestions for you:

#1
Consider supporting the SFZ format directly. If you don't want to bother with mapping all the files, then send some copies to me and I'll map them to SFZ format for you.

#2
Add some cowbell samples! The world needs more cowbell.

later,
McLilith

eDrummist · Post by **eDrummist** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:00 pm

Kingston (Michael),

As you can guess from the "eDrummist," I play drums. I'm very eager to download your kits. The demos sound really good. I especially like the Ruffrider "studio live" demo.

As far as comparing your drums to other kits. Your drums sound very good on their own. As far as I am concerned, there is room enough for millions of great sounding kits. There is no one perfect, end-all kit. I have samples and multi-samples of lots of different, excellent kits, but I still want more. But putting together a good kit and giving it away free...that's very cool of you. Thanks.

- eDrummist

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:05 pm

McLilith wrote:#1
Consider supporting the SFZ format directly. If you don't want to bother with mapping all the files, then send some copies to me and I'll map them to SFZ format for you.

Seconded! (I'm more than happy for someone else to do complicated mappings like a decent drum kit. Simple key/velocity maps from nicely named multisamples are scriptable. Drumkits take real effort...)

Of course, someone could come up with an EXS/whatever to sfz format converter to get things started...

(And everyone would cheer and otherwise celebrate someone managing to unpick Reason's ReFills to the extent necessary to reuse the content...)

(Just listening John Bonham playing gently on Moby Dick from How the West was won... Mmmmm... drums...)

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:23 am

Thanks for all the positive feedback people.

Right now my friend is boiling up a website for the kits.

Everything will be online at kingstondrums.bombsquad.org quite soon. Maybe even by the end of the week.

Spe3D, thanks for the hosting offer. I'll get back to you with details.

mabi, take a look at the keymaps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/michaelkingston to get an idea of the velocity layers. There's probably a maximum of 8 stereo samples per key, while some keys only have one layer. I've found that this works well most of the time and keeps file sizes low enough.

McLilith, SFZ support sounds good, and thanks for the offer to convert these. I'll get back to you with details. Unfortunately, as the kits were recorded such a long time a go, there won't be matching cowbells.

And if it concerns anyone, there might be DS-404 support, too.

Big Tick · Post by **Big Tick** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:02 am

Rere wrote:I want to say thanks in advance, and just an request for people with dial-up modems like me...
Please do not use zip, "rar" them instead, in multiple smaller volumes with máximum audio compression.

Or better, FLAC them...
'Tick

mabi · Post by **mabi** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:31 am

Wahat about battery format? battery is definetly one of the best drumsamplers....

....can't wait......

greetz

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:07 am

mabi wrote:Wahat about battery format? battery is definetly one of the best drumsamplers....

Battery will import SF2 (and Mr. Kingston said that this would be one of the supported formats).

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:23 am

Currently the supported formats will be:

EXS24 mkII
Halion 2
Kontakt 1.5.2
DR-008
.WAV
Soundfont 2
SFZ
DS-404

Doesn't battery support the kontakt format? curious if it doesn't... Soundfont import of Ruffrider to Battery should work just fine. Easyrider will import, too, but then you will lose the 24bit 48khz quality as easyrider sondfont was reduced to 16bit 44.1khz.

Big Tick, I thought about FLACing them, but decided to just RAR them to make it easier for everybody, as the file size difference wasn't that big. Sound fonts are SFPacked though.

amoebe · Post by **amoebe** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:41 am

Since everybody can get their hands on sfz 1.9, I'd like to know what would be the advantage of the sfz format instead of sf2. I think it would be pointless and a wast of bandwith downloading both formats.

Oh, and make this world a better place and don't support ds404. That @#$% sampler stores the full 90 mb sampleset in every song you use it with.

edit
OK, by actually reading the former post I now can answer the question myself. sfz will support the higer samplerates

/edit

simonw · Post by **simonw** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:37 pm

this is great. people providing for the community and sharing their samples. Its a shame the real world doesnt take a leaf out of the online's book.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:55 am

There's a new preview site online. The old site will simply direct to the new one from now on.

This is where everything will be soon:

http://kingstondrums.bombsquad.org/

Bookmark that and check every once in a while. That's the final domain.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:58 am

Can't wait to hear these kits, I've been watching this thread like a hawk since you posted. Thanks for your gift to the community.

IvoryTickler · Post by **IvoryTickler** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:28 pm

Sorry if it sounds a bit simple, but I presume you made one good quality kit, then used conversion software to create the different formats.

I would love to make some soundfonts, but I can't find a good intuitive program to do it with - and a couple of threads here haven't helped.

So what was the first format you created?

Alan

(PS demos sound stunning!)

Kingston Drums released