WTF happened to the term "techno"?

[IncarnateX]

Thanks for all the input guys. You have convinced me: Everything and nothing is techno and there is no such thing as bad techno, only too few drugs.

However, next time someone asks what music I am into, I think I will just mention a couple of artists.

Cheers

[Mushy Mushy]

Thanks for all the input guys. You have convinced me: Everything and nothing is techno and there is no such thing as bad techno, only too few drugs.

That's pretty much it.

[ZenPunkHippy]

Yeah! Rave on!

[stonestreet]

Not to mention all the reflection from concrete walls and floors.

This is part of what defines the sound of techno for me. Some of the best parties I've been to have were held in quite unusual places e.g. underground bunkers, abandoned train station. Reverb heaven!

Peace,
Andy.

not to mention water dripping off the ceilings with the crowd ambience.

Have fun

[Krzysztof Oktalski]

I love this too - real 303 trance from 1982

I think 10 Ragas is superior to a lot of post 87 acid, it's a great album and everyone should have it! I'm alright with that Elemental tune but everything seems a bit weak after 10 Ragas!

[Krzysztof Oktalski]

That whole "sticking girls over the top" thing renders countless young girls into brainless sheep. Not that I care though. haha

Yeah, didn't seem that important to me either - but now I've got a 10 year old daughter my priorities have shifted somewhat. She's grown up around musicians and so has asked about what it would be like if she became a pop star; I told her it's a form of mental and sexual exploitation that's best avoided and that it won't be as much fun as having your own New Orleans street brass band!

Techno isn't in and of itself exploitative, that's just the music industry as a whole, but come the moment the great pioneers had no problem conforming to the standard. Once big cheques started to land on the doorsteps of the Belleville Three the low voiced vocoder man took a break from techno and got replaced by a wailing woman having Big Fun. Popularity came pretty quick after that.

I hope this changes, and women take control of their careers, destiny and mixing/mastering in music - because then we'll all have new music to listen to and it won't just be the sounds of sausage meat slapping against sausage meat, as it so often is now.

[Krzysztof Oktalski]

However, next time someone asks what music I am into, I think I will just mention a couple of artists.

It's a much safer bet, saying that you like a whole genre of music is as dangerous as saying you dislike one!

[Acid Mitch]

I think 10 Ragas is superior to a lot of post 87 acid,

I'm not disagreeing, but I don't think the music is particularly like acid.
Sounds yes, music no.

[Acid Mitch]

I hope this changes, and women take control of their careers, destiny and mixing/mastering in music - because then we'll all have new music to listen to and it won't just be the sounds of sausage meat slapping against sausage meat, as it so often is now.

Most female musicians I've met are far more into acoustic instruments and the ones that like electronic stuff aren't really interested in the whole mixing/mastering thing.
I'm not saying there aren't any out there , but there seems to be so few I don't see that changing any time soon.

[Krzysztof Oktalski]

I'm not disagreeing, but I don't think the music is particularly like acid.
Sounds yes, music no.

Yeah, clearly 10 ragas was made by someone who understood a fair few things about music, whereas post 87 acid is often someone hitting the buttons until they got a funky riff; there's a different technical/musical ability between them. Still, it all sounds good together and they've both got their merits. Reminds me of Tyree's Acid Over, where one mix has live house piano all over it and the other is just raw acid; even on a single 12" musical styles can vary enough to pose the question, "is this the same type of music?". But that's merely for your personal analogous framework, really who cares apart from the people trying to market it?

I think Tyree would of said it's all House - that's how he marketed it as at the time. The idea of what a genre is depends a lot on whose marketing you've bought into as regards the explanation, and what you like. We'll all continue to argue endlessly about what genre a piece of music falls into, but it's not going to get us anywhere except having a bigger semantic framework. I've always preferred less words in music generally, so its all just some kind of techno to me - the main categorisation I have is "do I like it?".

Most female musicians I've met are far more into acoustic instruments

This is getting a bit OT, but it seems to me that for many reasons women are still less inclined to enter technical fields generally. I think music is poorer for it, but I agree that it's not something that looks like it'll change in the near future. Maybe it'll take men having babies to change it, that would make for a strange musical revolution.