Countdown to Sample Tank 3, with 64 bit support

[BBFG#]

Totally disagree, BBFG... At the end of the day, a sampler is only as good as the sounds you can get out of it. For orchestral composition especially, the sounds in Sampletank2 and Miroslav are second to none.

The technology driving those sounds is maddeningly ancient, but once that is rectified in ST3, ST3 could dominate in the lower-price-range symphonic composition market.

I'm not really sure what you're disagreeing with since I don't believe that any of them are absolute as sample players and as I said throughout, SampleTank has filled the need more often than the others. I refrain from calling it first or second as I find the quality to be as good as the others and only better as it fits my needs. Kontakt has given some me specialized ethnic instruments that I like. The technology works and so I haven't seen anything maddening in them except in aesethics. But ST is the easiest layout (albeit too small) to do quick and effective layering, Aria has the best Mixer layout and effects pages IMO though. Kontakt & Dimension are definitely powerful players and most sounds are solid enough, but that doesn't mean I have use for them. Even with the installed Gold Bundle for ST that may have a cross section of needs for most things, I still find particular things I can use and things I may never use (at least directly)

So if you want to go by my use of these four players, SampleTank/MSO has been number one, then Aria/GIO/GWI and then Kontakt and lastly Dimension (if at all). But the last two have been more about percussion than the first two and less about the melodic/harmonic instruments.

My best anticipation for ST3 is for the GUI, and of course, 64b is great.

So how many days are left?

[Arglebargle]

There are certain things I like about the ST interface over Kontakt, like you can set up your outputs ahead of time and they don't reset when you change patches. What a stupid behavior for Kontakt.

[BMoore]

As far as any news, let me reiterate that any news will be delivered elsewhere on one or more of our official channels from here on in, this trainwreck of a thread being a solid reason why.

That's funny I would think KVR would be your first stop, how many times have you wrecked us with the never ending GROUP BUY threads trying to make a coin off of us? lol

Respect the pimping though.

Meh. We're damned if we do, damned if we don't there. "Why didn't I hear about this sale?" has been heard, and that's specific information. We should really ONLY post product releases and announcements here - edit: and promos since that was the example I just used [end edit], and leave all of the conjecture to you all. That's what I meant. But however you like to read it is fine. Keeps the thread bumped.

I am 110% sure you wouldn't be damned if you didn't.
But you have never ever tried that.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

neverenough - see my reply to murnau about how IK is a business, and one that is very lucky to be successful in a niche market and of course that makes us happy and we're looking to continue to be in business for a very long time (and have been for quite a while already). I fail to see what's so bad about that. If you find something in an industry you love, providing tools for musicians in this case, why wouldn't you try to succeed.

I'm sorry that you seem upset by all of this, and I'll also take this opportunity to remind you there's still a PM waiting for you where I'm trying to directly help and see if everything is on the right track for the upgrade path with you, but you still seem uninterested in all that and simply want to jab and stab in public so there's that. We've got to take hold of the opportunity our customers prefer, I suppose, and this is what you appear to prefer. Glad I can help in some way.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

As far as any news, let me reiterate that any news will be delivered elsewhere on one or more of our official channels from here on in, this trainwreck of a thread being a solid reason why.

That's funny I would think KVR would be your first stop, how many times have you wrecked us with the never ending GROUP BUY threads trying to make a coin off of us? lol

Respect the pimping though.

Meh. We're damned if we do, damned if we don't there. "Why didn't I hear about this sale?" has been heard, and that's specific information. We should really ONLY post product releases and announcements here - edit: and promos since that was the example I just used [end edit], and leave all of the conjecture to you all. That's what I meant. But however you like to read it is fine. Keeps the thread bumped.

I am 110% sure you wouldn't be damned if you didn't.
But you have never ever tried that.

My example (which I've heard MANY times - people do not see the promo threads or if we don't post one) states EXACTLY that, so I believe you may want to brush up on the reading skills there, mate. Math too, on that 110% thing. As much as you'd like to bully us off KVR, good luck with that. People actually do appreciate the presence here, [edit] and posts like yours aren't scaring them or us.

[BMoore]

As far as any news, let me reiterate that any news will be delivered elsewhere on one or more of our official channels from here on in, this trainwreck of a thread being a solid reason why.

That's funny I would think KVR would be your first stop, how many times have you wrecked us with the never ending GROUP BUY threads trying to make a coin off of us? lol

Respect the pimping though.

Meh. We're damned if we do, damned if we don't there. "Why didn't I hear about this sale?" has been heard, and that's specific information. We should really ONLY post product releases and announcements here - edit: and promos since that was the example I just used [end edit], and leave all of the conjecture to you all. That's what I meant. But however you like to read it is fine. Keeps the thread bumped.

I am 110% sure you wouldn't be damned if you didn't.
But you have never ever tried that.

My example (which I've heard MANY times - people do not see the promo threads or if we don't post one) states EXACTLY that, so I believe you may want to brush up on the reading skills there, mate. Math too, on that 110% thing. As much as you'd like to bully us off KVR, good luck with that. People actually do appreciate the presence here, [edit] and posts like yours aren't scaring them or us.

Links to people complaining about you not creating promo threads here at KVR?

I'm sure there are people appreciating your precense here, for support.

[neverenoughfunk]

neverenough - see my reply to murnau about how IK is a business, and one that is very lucky to be successful in a niche market and of course that makes us happy and we're looking to continue to be in business for a very long time (and have been for quite a while already). I fail to see what's so bad about that. If you find something in an industry you love, providing tools for musicians in this case, why wouldn't you try to succeed.

I'm sorry that you seem upset by all of this, and I'll also take this opportunity to remind you there's still a PM waiting for you where I'm trying to directly help and see if everything is on the right track for the upgrade path with you, but you still seem uninterested in all that and simply want to jab and stab in public so there's that. We've got to take hold of the opportunity our customers prefer, I suppose, and this is what you appear to prefer. Glad I can help in some way.

first off, i am not upset... secondly, i find all this sh!t funny!!! i just throwing fuel on the fire... read my posts... if i have not made a number 1 hit by now... Sampletank 3 is not going to put me over the top... i think i used the phrase talent > toolz... i rather work on my talents than wait for a tool...

what makes all this sh!t funny is how you were so sure of yourself... that is the funny part... we still have time... the egg may be on my face if Sampletank 3 does come out in 2013... that would be funny too!!! at least... i would laugh at myself (because sh!t would be funny)!!!

everyone complains about how "todays" music sucks... i believe if we put as much love into our talents as we do with our toolz... the music would be better!!

if you understand that... that is what makes all this other bullsh!t funny!!!

[bobbackwards]

I know I am relatively old, but... if I bought a six string Fender guitar in 1986 and it worked and I liked it and Fender said it might make a 12 string guitar in 1990, I would not have ever said "Fender owes me a 12 string because my guitar I bought in 1986 only has 6! And they better deliver that free 12 string to me by December!"

"But old dude" you say, "software is different, blah, blah, blah..."

Whatever

yeah, and on top of it you can sell your guitar without asking fender if you allowed to do so or even better buying a resale license bla bla..

And I can't make a perfect reproduction of my guitar in 2 minutes with my computer...yeah the analogy is not perfect. I am just talking about people being bent out of shape over ST3 not being here "NOW" and the idea that IK owes them a completely new product gratis b/c they bought the original at full price 8 years ago. I don't like all the iGadgets so I don't buy em', it is really a simple concept, "people just be hatin'!" Anyway, horses for courses, my opinion doesn't really matter, I just thought I would make my bi-annual KVR post

[BBFG#]

everyone complains about how "todays" music sucks... i believe if we put as much love into our talents as we do with our toolz... the music would be better!!

On that, we may agree, although I find too many put their love into their own self-importance rather than talent, tools or skill.

[neverenoughfunk]

everyone complains about how "todays" music sucks... i believe if we put as much love into our talents as we do with our toolz... the music would be better!!

On that, we may agree, although I find too many put their love into their own self-importance rather than talent, tools or skill.

what funny with that... every time i am on the internet i am at my setup practicing/writing... so... while taking a break from working on my skills... i hop on the internet for some fun... self-importance? no way...yes... i have come a billion millions... but still have a trillion to go... self-importance?... no way? Real? 100%...

since you are jocking for "free" gifts from ik multimedia... point out one untruth i wrote... you may not like the "tone"... but there are facts/logical reasoning behind every statement i made...

p.s. ask Peter if you could have the "free" gift he offered me... i believe you deserve something for your input in this thread...

enjoy your day!!!

[BBFG#]

I actually wasn't directing that at you neverenoughfunk.
I was thinking more about the little glee types that sing well enough with auto tune and have a couple of cheerleader moves that make them think they can dance. But what they produce is an unsustainable illusion. It's Bananarama and SpiceGirls taken in the singular. And these little girls are no success until the drag queens emulate them.

I actually have enough of the IKM line that I don't feel I really need anything, free or otherwise, but price points can get me to do some impulse acquisition. If something came free, sure I would go for it, but I'm not 'jockying' for anything.

As far as your statements, I haven't heard you say anything but that you just want to stir it up for your own enjoyment. And that makes everything else you say, pointless and easily dismissed by its behavior.

[neverenoughfunk]

I actually wasn't directing that at you neverenoughfunk.
I was thinking more about the little glee types that sing well enough with auto tune and have a couple of cheerleader moves that make them think they can dance. But what they produce is an unsustainable illusion. It's Bananarama and SpiceGirls taken in the singular. And these little girls are no success until the drag queens emulate them.

I actually have enough of the IKM line that I don't feel I really need anything, free or otherwise, but price points can get me to do some impulse acquisition. If something came free, sure I would go for it, but I'm not 'jockying' for anything.

As far as your statements, I haven't heard you say anything but that you just want to stir it up for your own enjoyment. And that makes everything else you say, pointless and easily dismissed by its behavior.

i am not sure when your comments are for me or not... if you answer directly to a quote what does that mean?

about "pointless and easily dismissed by its behavior"... again... find one untruth!!! thru my own enjoyment... im speaking the truth... you have a problem with the truth... or how it is delivered?

if you read your posts... it appears that you are blinded by a "free" gift from ik multimedia...

therefore...

i guess...

we all have our motivations...

right? maybe? sometimes?

[BBFG#]

As far as your statements, I haven't heard you say anything but that you just want to stir it up for your own enjoyment. And that makes everything else you say, pointless and easily dismissed by its behavior.

i am not sure when your comments are for me or not... if you answer directly to a quote what does that mean? about "pointless and easily dismissed by its behavior"... again... find one untruth!!! thru my own enjoyment... im speaking the truth... you have a problem with the truth... or how it is delivered? if you read your posts... it appears that you are blinded by a "free" gift from ik multimedia... therefore... i guess... we all have our motivations... right? maybe? sometimes?

My motivation here is a reminder that civility is a basic in society and communication.

As far as 'untruth', I'm taking you at your word in that you have said directly and implied somewhat consistently that you only do this "during breaks, to stir up things and to enjoy it". And by that, any other point you try to make is tainted by that truth. The main things I use from IKM are SampleTank and MSO, and I paid for both of them in two different sales. The 'free VIs' are nice and I am surprised by SS2's ability as a synth. Pointless to say I'm blinded by the free ones though, just as your tactics of trying to employ 'self-impeachment' when you've already did that to yourself from the start are.

[neverenoughfunk]

WOW!!! that was a mouth full... hope you feel better now...

[BBFG#]

Truth has that effect.