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hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:37 am

Sounds interesting.

Muziksculp · Post by **Muziksculp** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:06 am

So, will BWStudio be finally released once Beta-8 testing is approved by the Bitwigs ? or will we be waiting for Beta-9, 10, 11, 12, 13, .... .... ?

Hopefully Beta-8 is the last beta-version before the official release.

Tronam · Post by **Tronam** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:07 am

ThomasHelzle wrote:Very good news for lovers of Midi Plugins:

Not only does Beta 8 allow to put for instance Sugar Bytes Thesis in front of an instrument, but you now can have as many Midi-VSTs in one chain as you want. I just had a very pleasant session testing all kinds of Midi tools.
Tone Carvers Nova32 works just as well as Audio Damages Axon, BlueArp, Kirnu Cream, J's Midi Tools etc.

Together with the brilliant modulation options, this opens a lot of opportunities. So for instance you can drive parameters of the superb Hypercyclic, which internally only has two LFOs with is a bit scarce for the amount of modulation targets, with the Bitwig-LFOs, which are absolutely smooth since they don't use midi but full floating point values...

For my kind of work, this is IT.

The new devices are awesome as well - quite an impressive list now:

Cheers,

Tom

Wait a sec. Are you trying to suggest that Bitwig is still in development and may not be feature complete yet?

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:13 am

ThomasHelzle wrote:Very good news for lovers of Midi Plugins:

Not only does Beta 8 allow to put for instance Sugar Bytes Thesis in front of an instrument, but you now can have as many Midi-VSTs in one chain as you want. I just had a very pleasant session testing all kinds of Midi tools.
Tone Carvers Nova32 works just as well as Audio Damages Axon, BlueArp, Kirnu Cream, J's Midi Tools etc.

Together with the brilliant modulation options, this opens a lot of opportunities. So for instance you can drive parameters of the superb Hypercyclic, which internally only has two LFOs with is a bit scarce for the amount of modulation targets, with the Bitwig-LFOs, which are absolutely smooth since they don't use midi but full floating point values...

For my kind of work, this is IT.

The new devices are awesome as well - quite an impressive list now:

Cheers,

Tom

Great news! That was fast

That is a fine list of devices... I'm curious what the Step-Mod device is?

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:20 am

Tronam wrote: Wait a sec. Are you trying to suggest that Bitwig is still in development and may not be feature complete yet?

I don't know what Bitwig's development cycles look like but I have been involved in QA and been beta admin for software, where the internal builds would be feature complete for a month before the beta testers got to see it. With DAW software, it seems that you might want to release features in chunks so that beta testers can focus on a certain area without being overwhelmed or having difficulty with repro steps. That goes for development as well. I imagine it's tough to finalize certain types of features until you have a good idea of how the software is being used by a broad user base.

This is all pure speculation. I reserve the right to be wrong at any time.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:22 am

pdxindy wrote: Great news! That was fast

That is a fine list of devices... I'm curious what the Step-Mod device is?

I showed that "some pages ago" - basically a modulation source based on Arpeggio-like steps. VERY nice device

Cheers,

Tom

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:24 am

Tronam wrote: Wait a sec. Are you trying to suggest that Bitwig is still in development and may not be feature complete yet?

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:32 am

ThomasHelzle wrote:
pdxindy wrote: Great news! That was fast

That is a fine list of devices... I'm curious what the Step-Mod device is?
I showed that "some pages ago" - basically a modulation source based on Arpeggio-like steps. VERY nice device

Cheers,

Tom

Oops... guess I missed that... sounds good though!

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:33 am

Tronam wrote: Wait a sec. Are you trying to suggest that Bitwig is still in development and may not be feature complete yet?

No DAW is ever feature complete... ... ...

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:59 am

You guys are TOO funny.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:01 am

ThomasHelzle wrote:Very good news for lovers of Midi Plugins:

Not only does Beta 8 allow to put for instance Sugar Bytes Thesis in front of an instrument, but you now can have as many Midi-VSTs in one chain as you want. I just had a very pleasant session testing all kinds of Midi tools.
Tone Carvers Nova32 works just as well as Audio Damages Axon, BlueArp, Kirnu Cream, J's Midi Tools etc.

Together with the brilliant modulation options, this opens a lot of opportunities. So for instance you can drive parameters of the superb Hypercyclic, which internally only has two LFOs with is a bit scarce for the amount of modulation targets, with the Bitwig-LFOs, which are absolutely smooth since they don't use midi but full floating point values...

For my kind of work, this is IT.

Nice!

Cheers
Dennis

trusampler · Post by **trusampler** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:33 am

Thomas thanks for sharing the great news, I've read that Bitwig 1.0 will allow us to save instrument track presets, if combined with other tracks,will it also for multi-track presets? meaning two or more instruments along with the mixer channels for plugins?

thanks if you can clear this up

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:15 am

i guess you can create a folder, where you can put the single channels into. Wouldn't that be enough?

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:15 am

Thank you as always Thomas, yes that effect list is looking quite righteous.

@pdxindy Here is where Thomas talked about step mod, on page 104:

ThomasHelzle wrote:...But my total favourite: Step MOD, an up-to-16-Steps Sequencer where each step can modify anything you put in it's FX Slot in the usual intuitive graphical way. It also reacts to the general Shuffle settings on demand, so this is awesome for all kinds of rhythmic modulation.
But it gets even better: you can modulate each steps value with for instance LFOs or other StepMODs or Automation etc. and that opens up a huge wealth of generative options. I totally love it
And you can modulate the speed too...

(As always, rightclick "load image" or however it's called in your browser to see it 1:1)

There are many other fixes and improvements but these are the most interesting ones for my taste

Cheers,

Tom

@Suloo I don't think we have seen track folders in Bitwig. Tracks with multiple instrument devices(including drum machine tracks) will fold out similar to Live, but putting the tracks themselves into folders is not there afair.

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:19 am

trusampler wrote:Thomas thanks for sharing the great news, I've read that Bitwig 1.0 will allow us to save instrument track presets, if combined with other tracks,will it also for multi-track presets? meaning two or more instruments along with the mixer channels for plugins?

thanks if you can clear this up

I can't say if doing it like that is possible, but if you want to save the instruments, you could put them in an inst-layer on the same track and save that. If you have multiple instrument devices on one track on an inst-layer you will get a fold out mixer strip for each so it's like each has their own track, only a but more organized.

Live can do this, and there is a screenshot Thomas posted of Bitwig doing it that I might be able to find....

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