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Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:39 am

Here it is:

ThomasHelzle wrote:I think we were over it already but in short ATM it's like this:
- The Drum Machine instrument can be unfolded in the Mixer to show every pad as a separate mixer track.
- If you use Instrument Layers, those can be unfolded as well in the mixer.
- You can not ATM create such groups/busses yourself (But as I understand it, it's planned, may or may not be in 1.0).
- You can not ATM access multiple outs of VSTs, but it maybe could be handled like the Drum-Machine in the future. No idea when that may be though and if it will actually happen. Don't quote me on that one.

(Rightclick-> "View Image" to see it 1:1)

Two tracks in this one, one with an Instrument Layer with 4 instruments and one with the Drum Machine. The sub-tracks can't hold Clips but otherwise are fully featured. The sub tracks of the Drum Machine even have play buttons to preview the individual drums. Nice

This image also shows the big meters that can be enabled for the mixer view. Not really sure about the colours there. Everything else in BWS is rather warm, so these large greenish meters look a bit alien to me.

Cheers,

Tom

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:08 pm

garyboozy wrote:
Ogopogo wrote:
ZenPunkHippy wrote:It could just be to keep some things hidden so that there's more room for other devices in the main rack view, or I might be missing something.
Could it be so you can save it with the a preset? I think they said that if you nested fx they would be saved with the preset at some point.
you can save presets the other way around with the arp infront of the synth, so my guess is that the note fx insert is a way to keep things neater at the front of the chain, so you see the synth first. which is nice enough. i hope i'm wrong though, and it's for something awesome like mapping note expression data to modulation sources or some shit like that

Ah, I see. ty

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:32 pm

Muziksculp wrote:So, will BWStudio be finally released once Beta-8 testing is approved by the Bitwigs ? or will we be waiting for Beta-9, 10, 11, 12, 13, .... .... ?

Hopefully Beta-8 is the last beta-version before the official release.

Edit. Judging by the fact that the time between this one and the last one was one month, they would have a hard time squeezing in one more and getting it released this year I think, so I suppose I agree.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:21 pm

Ogopogo wrote:
trusampler wrote:Thomas thanks for sharing the great news, I've read that Bitwig 1.0 will allow us to save instrument track presets, if combined with other tracks,will it also for multi-track presets? meaning two or more instruments along with the mixer channels for plugins?

thanks if you can clear this up
I can't say if doing it like that is possible, but if you want to save the instruments, you could put them in an inst-layer on the same track and save that. If you have multiple instrument devices on one track on an inst-layer you will get a fold out mixer strip for each so it's like each has their own track, only a but more organized.

Live can do this, and there is a screenshot Thomas posted of Bitwig doing it that I might be able to find....

Yeah, if you can differentiate your instruments by for instance note range, that would be the way to do it.

You can not save tracks as presets AFAIK, but if you save a clip, all the track contains is saved with it (even if you just create an empty dummy clip for that purpose).

I just tried and it seems you can't save multiple clips as one preset, but I think in that case you may rather save your tracks to a project and open that (remember that you can open many projects at once) and just drag it from one tab to another.

I guess people will use an empty project in the background as a kind of extended clipboard right away...

You just drag whatever you want over the project-tab you want to drag it to, after a moment the view switches to that project and there you can drop it wherever you need it to be.

Track grouping will come, but it's possible that it will not be in 1.0 as far as I understand it.

Cheers,

Tom

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:37 pm

One more nice thing about Beta 8: In earlier versions, my 500 Gig Folder with samples, clips and loops on a standard internal HD (WD 3TB) was taking the indexer up to 2 hours to scan, now it's 40 seconds

Not bad I'd say.

Normally folders and VSTs are scanned on app-start, but since I don't change my content all that often, I found out yesterday (there was a very nice office party at the Bitwig HQ - living in Berlin has it's treats) that I can rightclick it in the file browser and set "Monitor Changes" to off, so the wear level is lower on the HD.

Speaking of "Monitor Changes": run Bitwig, install a VST, use it instantly. Monitor Changes really works.

Cheers,

Tom

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:31 pm

Wuuuuuuut, that's cool. I bet you know when it's coming out!

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:38 pm

Ogopogo wrote:Wuuuuuuut, that's cool. I bet you know when it's coming out!

No.

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:42 pm

3ee · Post by **3ee** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:09 pm

Thanks for the info Tom!

Bitwig seems pretty done now, hopefully it will be released this year too!

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:42 pm

3ee wrote:Thanks for the info Tom! Bitwig seems pretty done now, hopefully it will be released this year too!

Yeah, that would be great.

Main Focus is Plugins now and I'm testing them in the dozens when I have time

Cheers,

Tom

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:50 pm

please suggest a more professional panning option. Maybe also as plugin..

^

It's pretty usefull for mixing imho.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:41 pm

Ogopogo wrote:Thank you as always Thomas, yes that effect list is looking quite righteous.

@pdxindy Here is where Thomas talked about step mod, on page 104:
ThomasHelzle wrote:...But my total favourite: Step MOD, an up-to-16-Steps Sequencer where each step can modify anything you put in it's FX Slot in the usual intuitive graphical way. It also reacts to the general Shuffle settings on demand, so this is awesome for all kinds of rhythmic modulation.
But it gets even better: you can modulate each steps value with for instance LFOs or other StepMODs or Automation etc. and that opens up a huge wealth of generative options. I totally love it
And you can modulate the speed too...

(As always, rightclick "load image" or however it's called in your browser to see it 1:1)

There are many other fixes and improvements but these are the most interesting ones for my taste

Cheers,

Tom

THanks for reposting that... I especially like the modulation possibilities!

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:45 pm

Ogopogo wrote:
Muziksculp wrote:So, will BWStudio be finally released once Beta-8 testing is approved by the Bitwigs ? or will we be waiting for Beta-9, 10, 11, 12, 13, .... .... ?

Hopefully Beta-8 is the last beta-version before the official release.
Edit. Judging by the fact that the time between this one and the last one was one month, they would have a hard time squeezing in one more and getting it released this year I think, so I suppose I agree.

You cannot tell by those measures... in that month they could have done 100% work for beta8 and 75% work for beta 9...

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:00 pm

I suppose you've got a point, but they do need a good amount of time for people to find the bugs and report them, so I imagine that's a big factor.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:05 pm

Completely unrelated stuff ahead!

Has anyone noticed that one of the channels in the first introduction video is called "Polyphonic Cat"?

This has been a cat conspiracy since the beginning!

Cheers
Dennis

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