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[Melodyshine]

They say it creates higher harmonics. But I just used a frequency analyzer and I noticed that the frequencies (that are lower than the frequency I choose) are really louder!! How come? That would be an equalizer. The frequency analyzer doesn't have a brain...

Moreover in my opinion it also sounds like an equalizer.

[electro]

I just tried it and I think it's really bad because there is clipping (the level of my track and my master track is below 0db, but the internal level of the plugin's output is above 0db, very strange, so I need to use the internal gain, but then the bypassed signal is louder than the plugin's signal, so I can't compare the bypassed signal with the plugin at the same volume...)
The internal fader even shows clipping when I turn the track's volume to the minimum!!!!

A plug in of this type will unavoidably add volume (there is indeed an output limiter though) so you need to gain stage properly.

That said, if your going into digital clipping territory as in the ren bass limiter is flashing, you are running it way too hot to begin with.

Waves Native are still fixed point?

[lfm]

They say it creates higher harmonics. But I just used a frequency analyzer and I noticed that the frequencies (that are lower than the frequency I choose) are really louder!! How come? That would be an equalizer. The frequency analyzer doesn't have a brain...

Moreover in my opinion it also sounds like an equalizer.

I think RenBass is a simplified version of MaxxBass.

http://www.waves.com/plugins/maxxbass

What can be varied in parameters is probably what MaxxBass has, but fixed in presets somehow in RenBass.

Depending on settings, I can get the lows move up an octave, or be doubled with a higher octave as well.

It's not just a EQ, but may be seen as EQ with even order harmonics or similar. It's also possible to run it hot with distortion, if you want that.

But maybe run it on pure bass track - not full mixes.

Personally I run some VEQ3 or VEQ4 to create nice bass sounds. You can run it hot with very nice dist. Just lined bass becomes really nice.

Then you can finalize it all with RenBass/MaxxBass if you want.

MaxxBass is on sale $49 and give some more control. Or is part of Gold bundle when there are no-brainer deals for those 30+ plugins, down to $250 or so a couple of month a year. It's maybe a handful that I have not used of those.

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[Melodyshine]

But I thought it should create harmonics above the frequency I choose. But when I use a frequency analyzer, I notice: the frequencies below the frequency I choose, get a higher amplitude.

From the manual:

The brain can reconstruct a "missing fundamental"from just the harmonics the ear is hearing. For example,
if you have a radio with a small speaker, the bass guitar in a rock song, or the double bass in a concerto, can
not be reproduced by that very small speaker, that is, the fundamental pitch is too low for that speaker to
produce.
However, the harmonics are coming out of the speaker (they are higher than the fundamental of course,

Therefore, you hear the low bass note, even though it is not coming out of that speaker.

Waves created the MaxxBass algorithm to do exactly this

So why does the frequency analyszer show me that this plugin increases the real amplitudes of the frequencies below the frequency I choose?
Moreover my room is not so nice. I know that some low notes get loud in my room. When I use Renaissance Bass and play these specific low notes, then I can hear that the room modes are even more powerful now. So the bass isn't coming from my brain because I know there is a big room mode in my room at 67 Hz, so I don't think my room mode has been evoked by higher harmonics...

[lfm]

But I thought it should create harmonics above the frequency I choose. But when I use a frequency analyzer, I notice: the frequencies below the frequency I choose, get a higher amplitude.

Maybe it do both, above and below and add something slightly detuned as well.

As you see from MaxxBass panel - there are settings for harmonics, as different filter types and which levels on harmonics.

So there might be presets in RBass built on different of these MaxxBass parameters.

Startout from different presets and modify setting you have at hand. There might be presets working differently for the harmonics.

I had to experiment quite a bit before getting MaxxBass to produce something I liked better than original signal - so try RBass some more to figure out if it does something useful for your material.

[Igro]

They say it creates higher harmonics. But I just used a frequency analyzer and I noticed that the frequencies (that are lower than the frequency I choose) are really louder!! How come? That would be an equalizer. The frequency analyzer doesn't have a brain...

Moreover in my opinion it also sounds like an equalizer.

It's not really like an equaliser, as it creates fake harmonics to "fill in" the low end. In fact AFAIK the whole process is patented therefore there isn't another plugin doing the same thing.

Is there any information about its patent?

[Melodyshine]

Something about missing fundamentals http://auditoryneuroscience.com/topics/ ... undamental

[Tronam]

Maybe the frequency slider is not supposed to represent the fundamental frequency of your bass sound, but is instead your target frequency range for the intended output medium. In other words you'd set it according to whatever your speakers/headphones can reproduce and then it'll enhance the bass region around those frequencies.

[tonsturm]

I had digital clicking problems with that current version when automated.. I guess this means they will upgrade it..?

[evilplazma]

Did Not get the One Knob Louder, got the email for a serial number today for it but didn't work out at all... nothing

Hope I can get this beast this time

[samsam]

RTFM

http://www.waves.com/1lib/pdf/plugins/r ... e-bass.pdf

[Compyfox]

Several things:

a) RenBass is based upon the MaxxBass Technology, but is more limited feature wise

b) CP system (to my knowledge) is now Cloud or any custom USB stick (like Plugin Alliance)

c) there is no mention of future WUP fees, should you want to stay up to date or get possible bugfixes!

d) I can't comment on the internal processing engine. But after that many Waves engine generations, you can hopefully expect internal float rather than "fixed" (integer) - an easy test would be to put a Bitrate meter right after this plugin. If it caps at 24bits, you should better stay within a certain dB range or don't mix so that your signal goes beyond 0dBFS.

So why does the frequency analyszer show me that this plugin increases the real amplitudes of the frequencies below the frequency I choose?

This can be cleared with the architecture of the plugin.

To my understanding, the signal is being split on input, so you have one original signal, and one signal that is being Low Passed, then enhanced with harmonics. Mix that along to the original signal and you get the readouts in your Analyzer. Totally normal behavior.

MaxxBass also clearly shows that in his GUI (the overlapping dry and bass courves), and you also have control over the dry signal strength. RenBass doesn't have that.

So the bass isn't coming from my brain because I know there is a big room mode in my room at 67 Hz, so I don't think my room mode has been evoked by higher harmonics...

Then you should try using headphones to see if it really has an impact for you. I've used MaxxBass while mastering pre-70ies recordings (which really lack lowend sometimes), and it worked great for that purpose.

Maybe the frequency slider is not supposed to represent the fundamental frequency of your bass sound, but is instead your target frequency range for the intended output medium. In other words you'd set it according to whatever your speakers/headphones can reproduce and then it'll enhance the bass region around those frequencies.

It sets the maximum frequency for the LPF of the "to be enhanced" signal. At least in MaxxBass.




For free, still a nice tool that can add a ton of (perceived) lowend to your signal. Even if it's that old by now.

[AudioGuy720]

Great freebie thanks for sharing the link!