why nobody cares about my music ..?

[Vile Shadow]

what the hell i just watched -_-

[zerocrossing]

The hard truth is that for most of us no one cares about our music. First, there's tons of good music out there already. SO much you could spend the rest of your life just going through the good stuff that was released before you were born. Second, why? What are you doing? Is it great? New? Tapping the pulse of the collective consciousness? Probably not. Anyway, my advice is do it for yourself. Do it so YOU love it. Keep sharing but expect nothing. One day you may hit on something, but if not, you had a great time making music.

I tend to agree with this assessment. But I would add that it's not out of reach for an "unknown" music composer/producer to make waves in the wider culture of our times, but there is a massive qualification: you will HAVE TO make something truly arresting, surprising, moving, utterly impressive, and maybe even (pardon the cliche) revolutionary.

All of that sounds like smarmy pie in the sky talk, but it's inescapably true. Why? Because otherwise, as zerocrossing indicated, you will just fade back into the crowd, and the "crowd" has all the same tools and all the same access to exposure via the internet that you have.

Good points, but I also want to add that just because you don't have an "arresting, surprising, moving, utterly impressive, and maybe even revolutionary" take on music, you shouldn't give up. I can't tell you how many times I've enjoyed a band or act that was totally derivative and non spectacular in the right context. I wouldn't have purchased their album, or paid a cover to see/hear them, but they added to the experience in a positive way.

I'll also say again that even if you never post a track and just hide away in your bedroom making music (I mostly do live improvised music that goes away as soon as the ram buffer is purged) but you derive some sort of pleasure or satisfaction from it, then you've succeeded as a musician.

Not sure who said this (it mistakenly gets attributed to Henry D. Thoreau) but it's an excellent quote:

"Use what talent you possess: the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except those that sang best."

[Axis1~SL61]

maybe someone already said something about this (long tread, I didn't read it all) -- but musical success doesn't depend on talent alone (though of course you should have some), but it depends much more on being at the right place at the right time and having the right contacts. Read this article about it:
http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/rui ... dio-580195

[highkoo]

He put a link to a track and said it was "shit". It isn't.

Ok, fair enough. I did miss that.
Thanks.
OP, once you do that, you deserve whatever is thrown at you.

[A.M. Gold]

The hard truth is that for most of us no one cares about our music. First, there's tons of good music out there already. SO much you could spend the rest of your life just going through the good stuff that was released before you were born. Second, why? What are you doing? Is it great? New? Tapping the pulse of the collective consciousness? Probably not. Anyway, my advice is do it for yourself. Do it so YOU love it. Keep sharing but expect nothing. One day you may hit on something, but if not, you had a great time making music.

I tend to agree with this assessment. But I would add that it's not out of reach for an "unknown" music composer/producer to make waves in the wider culture of our times, but there is a massive qualification: you will HAVE TO make something truly arresting, surprising, moving, utterly impressive, and maybe even (pardon the cliche) revolutionary.

All of that sounds like smarmy pie in the sky talk, but it's inescapably true. Why? Because otherwise, as zerocrossing indicated, you will just fade back into the crowd, and the "crowd" has all the same tools and all the same access to exposure via the internet that you have.

Good points, but I also want to add that just because you don't have an "arresting, surprising, moving, utterly impressive, and maybe even revolutionary" take on music, you shouldn't give up. I can't tell you how many times I've enjoyed a band or act that was totally derivative and non spectacular in the right context. I wouldn't have purchased their album, or paid a cover to see/hear them, but they added to the experience in a positive way.

I'll also say again that even if you never post a track and just hide away in your bedroom making music (I mostly do live improvised music that goes away as soon as the ram buffer is purged) but you derive some sort of pleasure or satisfaction from it, then you've succeeded as a musician.

Not sure who said this (it mistakenly gets attributed to Henry D. Thoreau) but it's an excellent quote:

"Use what talent you possess: the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except those that sang best."

Yea, I agree. Those words of mine were bordering on hyperbole but I overstated it a bit just to drive home the point that the "please listen to my music" scene on the internet is, and has been for at least 7-8 years, so completely flooded that it's going to be par for the course to be largely ignored. Since the OP seemed depressed about that I felt like it has to be spelled out very clearly that this is what you should expect---very low interest.

This is one of the reasons why the "long tail" theory of new era music marketing via the internet failed for the most part. The tail is just way, way too long and it drops off too quickly. What you get is a few outliers who generate a big fan base on YouTube, and then millions of people in the long tail getting almost no attention.

It's possible to overcome that, but no one is going to be able to tell you or me or the OP how to do it, other than to say "Be effing brilliant."

But, as you said, if you can deal with the fact that getting internet fans isn't going to be easy and you do your own music because you enjoy it, or maybe a small group of people appreciate it, then remaining low profile isn't an issue.

[Smartfusion]

Hi guys again it is me the boring guy lol!!
so i was in vacancy and i'm surprised that you wrote a lot of stuff , it is a pleasure im really glad you did cause for the first time i feel pepole interested to what i do so I come back with a nice track I think this time
https://soundcloud.com/smartfusion/my-feeling-for-you
so waiting for your feedbacks on soundcloud and here.

the admin can maybe remove this post if like i can create another for the track but i wish just to say hello and thanks with another boring production

[jancivil]

i think have a lot of plays suddenly but I know one thing : dont have the same ratio for the likes : so my tracks are not good ,i would be happy if they let some kind of comment to tell whats wrong.mmmm...!progress is my unik objectif so i need parameters to progress.they play and run how i can know what they didnt like they can be kind and tell me.cause this step is crucial : if they comment with an objectif way with something like : work on the pan or on the preset or on the depth mix anyway.. this help me and reduce time to market productions :witouht this i can make 2 years to develop something solid but with comments and feedback from seriouse peopole who think and believe i can do something great i can make only few months,especially i work hard and it is not a long time i began production.

The entire situation is you believing that you're entitled to a number of things. You "aren't good at melody" and I'm certain you have never been involved with melody as a musician. Not sure why you think you are ready to make music, but you picked up that cue, the internet exposed to you particular people that got noticed for doing shit. And you revealed that you know it's shit too, but you_want_that.

You need validation and encouragement from THE INTERNET as kind of a prime impetus. In these very remarks you have confounded the time you, at your honest moments, know you need to spend on craft, with time for marketing. You have set up some carts and they aren't pulling any horse, which is upsetting to you. You're in a terrific hurry to arrive, in an area of human endeavor where the people that become great devote their lives to, and are humble before it, music. Who are you, why are you entitled to anything in a few months? Chances are, you aren't built to do music at all. One would have a wholly different attitude then.

The whole situation is a mess like this. Why would anyone believe in you doing something "great"? It looks like to me you lack experience with "great". You want to be the next avicii, apparently. The world doesn't need you, believe me. Typically in the world there is a price to pay, on a number of fronts, for that amount of recognition. You seem to think the internet owes you the attention and that you can build yourself out of the love it will show you. But The Internet is not going to provide testicles for you.

[havran]

It could be that The Big Music likes our little music.

[Smartfusion]

thanks jancivil for the advice you have absolutely right ,i'm not musician at all thats why im here to progress with your help cause i have ideas but it is just the impacts it is not good enough.

@havran what you mean by :

It could be that The Big Music likes our little music.

[audiobot202]

i think have a lot of plays suddenly but I know one thing : dont have the same ratio for the likes : so my tracks are not good ,i would be happy if they let some kind of comment to tell whats wrong.mmmm...!progress is my unik objectif so i need parameters to progress.they play and run how i can know what they didnt like they can be kind and tell me.cause this step is crucial : if they comment with an objectif way with something like : work on the pan or on the preset or on the depth mix anyway.. this help me and reduce time to market productions :witouht this i can make 2 years to develop something solid but with comments and feedback from seriouse peopole who think and believe i can do something great i can make only few months,especially i work hard and it is not a long time i began production.

The entire situation is you believing that you're entitled to a number of things. You "aren't good at melody" and I'm certain you have never been involved with melody as a musician. Not sure why you think you are ready to make music, but you picked up that cue, the internet exposed to you particular people that got noticed for doing shit. And you revealed that you know it's shit too, but you_want_that.

You need validation and encouragement from THE INTERNET as kind of a prime impetus. In these very remarks you have confounded the time you, at your honest moments, know you need to spend on craft, with time for marketing. You have set up some carts and they aren't pulling any horse, which is upsetting to you. You're in a terrific hurry to arrive, in an area of human endeavor where the people that become great devote their lives to, and are humble before it, music. Who are you, why are you entitled to anything in a few months? Chances are, you aren't built to do music at all. One would have a wholly different attitude then.

The whole situation is a mess like this. Why would anyone believe in you doing something "great"? It looks like to me you lack experience with "great". You want to be the next avicii, apparently. The world doesn't need you, believe me. Typically in the world there is a price to pay, on a number of fronts, for that amount of recognition. You seem to think the internet owes you the attention and that you can build yourself out of the love it will show you. But The Internet is not going to provide testicles for you.

Yes. All of this, again and again and again and again. Not just in musical endeavours, but in so many other endeavours we see the same sense of entitlement.
In all greatness, there is humility. Nothing wrong with the OP, but he's just a reflection of the age we live in.
For my part, I'm no greater than anyone else. No more and no less. If we don't create for ourselves, we have no right to create for anyone else I'm afraid. Get this: The world just doesn't care, and nor should it. What was once new is now old; the internet is just another stone on the path and not the great panacea. Do the opposite of what's expected and then maybe you'll find something new. Just going with the flow leads to nothing but more uninterested followers who are looking for their own slice of the same pie. The blind not even leading the blind.
It's boring. It really is. No offense intended, but no one cares because they really don't. It's an easy answer.

[tapper mike]

Ome of the old old midi guys I think it was Dave Smith or Roger Linn once said ...to paraphrase When people go out to see a band perform. They are going out To See....A Band.....Perform Which is not the same as going out to dance. When someone goes out to dance the music and the music creation process is less important because they are only intersted in if they can dance to it. When looking up at the stage at a DJ and they have face in front of the laptop the audience doesn't know if that person is performing some amazing musical/technological feat or sending an email.

When I surf for music. It's not bandcamp or soundcloud it's youtube. I want to see people performing and engaging with thier audience.


I would have never listened to her originals had it not been for her performance of covers. I like Julie Nunes. i like the person, I like the stories. I like her approach to writing songs, arranging and producing them. She's not high tech, she's not the greatest singer or uke player in the world but she works well with what she has. She's been on major tours, She's done the late nite talk show curcuit. She's got a following that wants to pay to see her live and buy her stuff. I've bought her stuff. Not because I need to have it on a harddrive, more so because I believe in her and I think she deserves greater recognition. If buying an ep helps her to pay the bills and advance her career I'm all for it.


It's not enough to be able to "make music" regardless of how good you are or what type of equipment you have. It's more important to engage an audience in "your story" who "you are" and reflect the awareness of others. Staring at a sstatic soundcloud page while music is playing is not engaging enough.

[lotus2035]

Yup, there's a lot of ADD out there. Nobody can just sit still and listen to music anymore. It needs to be accompanied with epilepsy inducing flashing lights, explosions and several drops per track just to break the overbearing monotony of the previous 5 second segment. It'll be interesting to see how things turn out 20 years from now. Will we see a return to proper appreciation of the space between the notes? Or will it just get worse until we end up at a point where music becomes 2 second blasts of white noise layered with fart sounds which triggers a stimulating full body electric shock in our nano clothing?

[Smartfusion]

@lotus
we share the same point of view!!ABSOLUTELY
in edm I cant perform maybe a i can show how i work to pepole but you said it : WHO CARES!!

[vurt]

if you wanna be famous there are better ways than music. well i say better, i mean faster and easier.
however sharing them here will lock the thread and get me banned so...

[Smartfusion]

no i dont want be famous actually you didnt understand I just need my audience pepole supporting me nothing else.really dont care about being famous.