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heffus · Post by **heffus** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:35 pm

I can get the Z3Ta+2 upgrade for $24.50. Having version 1, do I really need it? I'm pretty much just a preset user/tweaker. I don't do any real programming or sound design. I love really rich beautiful sounding pads. How is Z3TA+2 for pads?

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:38 pm

Damn these sales! Just purchased Z3ta, not sure I even need it given that I own Sylenth, Spire, Synthmaster and Massive but I just could not resist.

No single synth purchase in 2014, I swear!

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:25 pm

heffus wrote:I can get the Z3Ta+2 upgrade for $24.50. Having version 1, do I really need it? I'm pretty much just a preset user/tweaker. I don't do any real programming or sound design. I love really rich beautiful sounding pads. How is Z3TA+2 for pads?

At 24,50 is most def no brainer

In addition to all the packed content, don't forget that there are free stuff to be had too, like the awesome Muzeum expansion:

Check out some beautiful pads on display here:

https://soundcloud.com/fr4ncesco/sets/m ... r-z3ta-2-1

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:29 pm

heffus wrote:I can get the Z3Ta+2 upgrade for $24.50. Having version 1, do I really need it? I'm pretty much just a preset user/tweaker. I don't do any real programming or sound design. I love really rich beautiful sounding pads. How is Z3TA+2 for pads?

Better sound, better user interface, ability to modulate the wave shaping functions. Should be a no-brainer as Numanoid said.

And yes, zeta is good for pads. Of course depends on the kind of pads.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:34 pm

Z3ta+ 2 is a great synth for tweakers because it has MUCH more features than Sylenth. Sylenth is a great synth for getting good EDM sounds instantly without being overwhelmed by loads of tabs and features.

And there are some great soundsets for Z3ta+ 2 from Xenos and Digital Sound Factory (both with Black Friday discounts)...

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:43 pm

D-Lay wrote: PS. There is free renaissance Bass http://www.waves.com/lpn/black-friday/free-plugin

they require an email addy to a dl link and serial#...then in the email they require to make a waves account to register the serial.... free, yeah. suk it waves.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:47 pm

layzer wrote:they require an email addy to a dl link and serial#...then in the email they require to make a waves account to register the serial.... free, yeah. suk it waves.

It's a drill

It doesn't cost anything to either open a Waves account or download the plugin

So it would be hard to argue against that it is free

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:50 pm

layzer wrote:
D-Lay wrote: PS. There is free renaissance Bass http://www.waves.com/lpn/black-friday/free-plugin
they require an email addy to a dl link and serial#...then in the email they require to make a waves account to register the serial.... free, yeah. suk it waves.

Well, of course it's their goal to get new customers. They wouldn't give something away for free if not for marketing purposes...

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:56 pm

+1 on the Xenos & DSF sounds for Z3ta+2.1

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:57 pm

...and we learn stuff in the process too:

If you should happen to be an Engineer and an artist approaching you wanting advice about buying some effect plugins, perhaps from Waves.

Wouldn't it then be good that you could help this guy/gal with how it is done from step one to the end?

Or would you say, no I have no clue because they want you to open an account with them, so I've never bothered with Waves?

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:03 pm

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:07 pm

V0RT3X wrote:

Are you making songs with AutoCAD?

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:08 pm

IF you are after more mainstream EDM stuff check this demo out of what Z3ta can do.

https://soundcloud.com/vengeancesound/w ... und-com-80

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:11 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:
Are you making songs with AutoCAD?

Lol no this is just how i make music normally.

I love adding tons of details to my sounds, I don't know why I just do. If your not familiar with what's in the picture it's basically a bunch of automation channels that Live displays for the current instrument. It does look like a drawing or something though! Sometimes i look at the lines and stuff when i make music and think of oldschool games

I also realized that I did not take advantage of the curves that Ver 9 has to offer. I always seem to forget.

This particular demo was sort of sloppy because I never used the draw tool to get all the points to snap to the nearest grid but i guess that adds to the "organic" style of the sound.

My opinion is that Z3TA+2 is a must own synthesizer if you are keen on doing sound design stuff! I still have so much to learn with it but I really like the possibilities so far!

I like Sylenth1 but it's not something that really excites me because it lacks a lot of the nerdy synthesizer programming options that keeps me interested. However it does make programming "Bread&Butter" style sounds really fast and it sounds pretty good with barely any CPU hit.

Maybe if LennarDigital makes a Sylenth2 with more sound design options I'll probably check it out but I think for me I will be buying either Zebra2 or Spire next.

MY advice to the op if you are a total newbie in synthesis maybe go for Sylenth1 because you will get more musical sounding and useable stuff out of Sylenth1 faster and it is easier to learn. Sylenth1 has that "Instant gratification" factor and ease of use that makes it a real crowd pleaser. Also I should point out if you are looking to recreate accurate vintage analog synth sounds with either you might get frustrated. Sylenth1 can come somewhat close but for this stuff i would recommend either Synthsquad, Monark or Diva.

psmacmur · Post by **psmacmur** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:49 pm

When I saw Ren Bass was their freebie this year, at first I was gutted cuz I'd just bought it in a Ren Max bundle last Boxing Week. However, I realized that it should mean a free year's WUP on my very favourite Waves plug.

I think it's worth the licensing pain, despite Waves licensing breaking whenever I install my work VPN software. Can't even have it installed, never mind connected!

Aggravating but acceptable, as I've yet to find a comparable bass enhancer.

I've also installed DCAM's useful FreeComp and NI's Driver, both from same marketing premise: give away a licensed plug to get people used to your system. (DCAM's seems the least intrusive so far)

Numanoid wrote:...and we learn stuff in the process too:

If you should happen to be an Engineer and an artist approaching you wanting advice about buying some effect plugins, perhaps from Waves.

Wouldn't it then be good that you could help this guy/gal with how it is done from step one to the end?

Or would you say, no I have no clue because they want you to open an account with them, so I've never bothered with Waves?

Z3TA+2 or Sylenth1? Need your advices! :)