why nobody cares about my music ..?

[vurt]

in that case, make music that moves you.
let them find you, it will come as you make more and eventually better music.
work hard, play hard

[thecontrolcentre]

no i dont want be famous actually you didnt understand I just need my audience pepole supporting me nothing else.really dont care about being famous.

Your audience? What you need is to learn is how to express yourself musically. That takes time and understanding, not better marketing. There are millions of wannabe musicians out there.

[DJ Warmonger]

There are two ways you can follow:

1. Find an audience and adapt to it. Whether they are coneseurs looking for sophisticated sound or deaf and drunk teens.

2. Be an artist and create an audience for the music there has not been before. It can include arrangement or performance, or both. But you need to be outstanding to stand out in the crowd.

Otherwise... everybody gets what he deserves. Sorry, no bonus.

[Tricky-Loops]

Hi guys again it is me the boring guy lol!!
so i was in vacancy and i'm surprised that you wrote a lot of stuff , it is a pleasure im really glad you did cause for the first time i feel pepole interested to what i do so I come back with a nice track I think this time
https://soundcloud.com/smartfusion/my-feeling-for-you
so waiting for your feedbacks on soundcloud and here.

Sounds pretty good to 80 %, what I miss is the 20 % of special creativity, extraordinary samples/instruments/vocals/ideas etc.

It sounds like millions of other trance/dance tracks...

I'm the other extreme, I don't care about sounding mainstream at all but I put too many funny lo-fi elements into my songs. Maybe I could learn from you how to sound MORE mainstream...

Regarding the song structure, I like the main parts but I would change the bridge and introduce a different motif and some FX, not just a simple boring low pass filter automation.

[ras.s]

I haven't read the thread entirely, but I'd like to voice my opinion about dj'ing. It's the best way to get one's music across to people.

If you post your tunes on Soundcloud and thing and wait for labels to notice, you're (anyone is) gonna wait a long time. You might catch up a few followers, but they're a bunch of folks who want an endless stream of music to be played to them, and while they probably appreciate good music, it doesn't matter a thing to most of them whose music it actually is that is playing.


But if you're in a dancehall playing your own tunes to people, they'll know you alright. They remember your face, your name, the sweat they had, the soundsystem thumping, the whole experience. Of course you have to make your performance a performance, that is, if you just have a laptop there that has a program that knows all the tempos of the tracks and which keys they are in and even suggests you which tune to play next, it's no different to them if it was a Youtube-playlist blasting through the speaker boxes. But if you got a music player, effect box, sampler, mixer and some instruments there alongside some microphone action on top of your carefully mixed tracks and versions selected in the perfect order, it is a performance. And it's gonna get noticed and if you do it well enough, the people will want more.


Every once in a while I hear the opinion that djs aren't musicians, but heck.. If a bass player plays the bass, the guitarist plays the guitar and the drummer plays the drums, what does the dj play? The dj plays music. Yea, it's a serious thing. And it's pretty much the only way we desktop musicians get to perform our music to people, spread the vibes we have in the studio.



So in short, I think it's worth considering a) what makes a good dj, b) how could you be a good dj and c) could that be the way to get people listening to your music? What's the point in making music for dancing if people listen it on their headphones in the subway? Not many of them are willing to dance in that setting.

[fluffy_little_something]

No offense, maybe your music simply lacks that special something, like most people's.

So does mine But I don't care anymore, I am realistic, my dream of making professional music died a long time ago for various reasons. I am just messing with computer music to keep my midlife crisis at bay ^^

Just listened to your link on this page, the usual filter sweeps, machine-gun snares with increasing volume, supersaw-like chords, merciless bass drum, compressed, dense, clean, perfectly programmed - like so much instrumental music made on computers. It lacks heart and soul in my view, the human touch of musicians. Maybe it is ok for stoned teens in discos, though, who knows...

Again, no offense, just my unprofessional impression

[lotus2035]

You could piss in a bucket, worked for Justin Bieber.

[Axis1~SL61]

Ome of the old old midi guys I think it was Dave Smith or Roger Linn once said ...to paraphrase When people go out to see a band perform. They are going out To See....A Band.....Perform Which is not the same as going out to dance. When someone goes out to dance the music and the music creation process is less important because they are only intersted in if they can dance to it. When looking up at the stage at a DJ and they have face in front of the laptop the audience doesn't know if that person is performing some amazing musical/technological feat or sending an email.

When I surf for music. It's not bandcamp or soundcloud it's youtube. I want to see people performing and engaging with thier audience.


I would have never listened to her originals had it not been for her performance of covers. I like Julie Nunes. i like the person, I like the stories. I like her approach to writing songs, arranging and producing them. She's not high tech, she's not the greatest singer or uke player in the world but she works well with what she has. She's been on major tours, She's done the late nite talk show curcuit. She's got a following that wants to pay to see her live and buy her stuff. I've bought her stuff. Not because I need to have it on a harddrive, more so because I believe in her and I think she deserves greater recognition. If buying an ep helps her to pay the bills and advance her career I'm all for it.


It's not enough to be able to "make music" regardless of how good you are or what type of equipment you have. It's more important to engage an audience in "your story" who "you are" and reflect the awareness of others. Staring at a sstatic soundcloud page while music is playing is not engaging enough.

This is a great post, everything Tapper Mike says here is true and I'd like to add that even making a simple visualisation fx video or slide show video with music attracts more attention then an only audio mp3 -- I've noticed the enormous difference when posting my mp3 or my music videos on facebook -- mp3 get totally ignored, music videos attract always likes and comments and even some asking how they can buy a CD of mine (very rare in my case, but it happened 2 or3 times).
Somehow I knew it already, but Tapper Mike put it very clearly, so Thanks for reminding me, because it's very easy to fall again and again into the only audio trap (lazyness in making the video, maybe?)
It's not only that people don't value so much sitting and only listening to music like in the pre-internet days -- it's also that humans are by nature visual animals, so looking at something while listening is always going to grab our attention much more than just listening.

[Smartfusion]

thanks you guys so much you are a love
well i know djing very well but the problem that when i changed the city here in paris there is a lot of dj and you must be known first.so i tried DJ Warmonger and cant play anywhere

[audiobot202]

No offense, maybe your music simply lacks that special something, like most people's.

So does mine But I don't care anymore, I am realistic, my dream of making professional music died a long time ago for various reasons. I am just messing with computer music to keep my midlife crisis at bay ^^

Just listened to your link on this page, the usual filter sweeps, machine-gun snares with increasing volume, supersaw-like chords, merciless bass drum, compressed, dense, clean, perfectly programmed - like so much instrumental music made on computers. It lacks heart and soul in my view, the human touch of musicians. Maybe it is ok for stoned teens in discos, though, who knows...

Again, no offense, just my unprofessional impression

I hear you on this !!!!

[robogone]

You could piss in a bucket, worked for Justin Bieber.

That seriously made me laugh out loud at work!

[wachimol]

Just throwing this out there, but when I see someone whose alias is "dj xyzetc." I tend to disregard them instantly. If you don't have a creative name, it won't get very far with me.

Of course, I'm probably a hypocrite for saying that. After all, my artist name is a 3 letter acronym and there are a lot of those :X

[robogone]

Just throwing this out there, but when I see someone whose alias is "dj xyzetc." I tend to disregard them instantly. If you don't have a creative name, it won't get very far with me

I do the same. I hate to judge someone in advance like that, but I have to filter things down somehow and I think the way someone names their act is indicative of their approach to music.

I feel the same about "I am a producer..."

[jancivil]

thanks jancivil for the advice you have absolutely right ,i'm not musician at all thats why im here to progress with your help cause i have ideas but

Take it easy, enjoy the journey. You're in a great hurry to a destination but I don't think you understand what it is really. What's the rush? What are you compensating for?

Take ten or thirty years at it as if serious about music. Does a visual artist declare herself as such having never learned a craft, painting or sculpting or what-have-you? The advent of technology is tricking people into believing they are ready to start 'creating music', with no background for it; and the phenomena of the internet is tricking people lacking skills into an illusory equality.

[wachimol]

I feel the same about "I am a x year old producer..."

fixed for truth