Cubase 7.5 official announcement!

[CTStump]

What surprises me is why most are surprised this is a paid upgrade.

this has become the standard practice with Steinberg Cubase since who knows when so why the angst?

whether Bugs are fixed is kinda irrelevant do to that important fact and new features were added.

Honestly the outrage is really overboard sometimes.

(if you don't like that, there a plenty of "other" options out there)

[LawrenceF]

Is it possible they'll do what they did with 6.5 and also release bug fixes in 7.0x for free before moving on? If so, you only have to pay if you want the new stuff.

[ZINO]

Is it possible they'll do what they did with 6.5 and also release bug fixes in 7.0x for free before moving on? If so, you only have to pay if you want the new stuff.

The 6.0 bug fixes were pathetic compared to 6.5

[ericj23]

@ sockofgold: Even the official Steinberg representative here posted it in this thread.

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That is correct, even after the release of Cubase 6.5 we released a Cubase 6.0.7 update with bug fixes.
So, customers who decided to stay with Cubase 6.0.6 will also benefit from the bug fixes included on the 6.5 update.
And after Cubase 7 was released we also updated Cubase 6.5.4 to Cubase 6.5.5

Best regards,
GN

Read closely here:
Cubase 6 was already at 6.06 until 6.5 came out. So the 6.0x users only got one(!) maintenance update. Every other bug that was not fixed by then, was only fixed in .5.x!

Cubase 6.5 on the other hand got five(!) maintenance updates, including the one that came out a couple of weeks post C7.

What a lovely conspiracy - alas 3 of your 5 updates were prerelease bug fixes - 6.5 go two updates 6.0 got one

"We kept providing maintenance updates" rarely cuts it. I'd love to see a .1.x and .2.x for a change again. Why can other host developers do this, and Steinberg can't?

Why is such an "update" adjusted to be .5?

"People were asking for it for a long time" - then don't skim us of our money and implement it for free, or with the next major version, but don't be all secretive in return.

Less hate by the users, more pleased customers. Yes, it is that(!) simple.

I and many others are happy customers - I have my problems, but it is still the best host going and the odd thing is you think this too. But what we have here is you hating/trolling/ranting because the world isn't the way you want it. And that is about it - your advice about how to run their business will have been passed on by the Steinberg staff you communicated with and at some level someone will have decided to ignore it because it is basically not in Steinberg's interest.

Those directing the good ship Steinberg realise it does not appear to be sinking - if you don't like where it goes get off. I know this is not very sympathetic towards your problems but your constant whining just increases the signal to noise ratio of threads that some of us might find informative

[kiezum]

This seems to be a great update. The new workflow improvements will probably save me a lot of time:
- Trackversions (I use to save different versions as Cubase files - and I also used lanes and trackfolders for this - added bonus is the trackversion ID!)
- Track visibility (This cleans up a lot of mess after composing/arranging - the presets will be very useful for quick access of tracks - hopefully key commands)
- Re-record (After recording I had to push spacebar, ctrl-z, '.', '*' - now just one key)

I hope Steinberg will expand the keycommands. Keycommands for opening the different inserts and send will be very welcome. For every action in Cubase there should be a keycommand! Is there a keycommand to change a keycommand set? That would be great.

Hopefully the new instrument track and the quickcontrols will work with VST2.4 plugins (like Kontakt). It would be great if quickcontrols (with presets) lock to a specific plugin. Quickcontrols should have 'banks' (which can be chosen with a keycommand or a midi-controller).

Nice update. A must for me!

[Compyfox]

Anyway, pointless to answer on any of the points you make anyway. You are obsessed, face it.

It's less of a worse obsession over trying desperately to get something to run properly - than stalking people and calling them to be "out of their minds".


...man that was deep.

What a lovely conspiracy - alas 3 of your 5 updates were prerelease bug fixes - 6.5 go two updates 6.0 got one

So it's even less(!) maintenance updates overall. And clearly only C6.5 benefit from that.

No weird conspiracy going on, only showing that what chk071 and certian other users said over and over, that "updates will continue to exist" - while that is only the case to a certain extend. And even then do not(!) fix major showstoppers unless you pay even further.

That's a sad fact since Steinberg started this game years ago. I'm not surprised that users are in denial. Obviously they don't care. You seem to me to be one of them.


Unless I misunderstand you - which could be the case...

I and many others are happy customers - I have my problems, but it is still the best host going and the odd thing is you think this too. But what we have here is you hating/trolling/ranting because the world isn't the way you want it. And that is about it - your advice about how to run their business will have been passed on by the Steinberg staff you communicated with and at some level someone will have decided to ignore it because it is basically not in Steinberg's interest.

Wrong assumption yet again.

I can't "use it" as advertised (I'm actually not the only one - again, reports, benchmark tests with several users, etc). It's not how I want to it be (aside from the global critisized Insert and General Window handling). I could care less about the bundled VST/VSTi (except for the cheezy rehashed Digial Musician Network plugin) - these are just eye candy to hide the small actual changes (which are still not posing as "revolutionary") and the fees that are involved.

This is all I'm pointing out since day 1.


I never said that Steinberg is a bad company, or that Cubase in itself is bad. Heck, I wouldn't have installed Cubase LE on a studio rig for a Youth Club Project Studio if that'd be the case!

The current situation is just sub par, how the users are treated, and Cubase 7 is (still) an unfinished, non fleshed out product overall.

Summed up in one sentence. Such harsh critism can be read by other users about Cubase SX, Cubase 4/5 and now from me with C7 as well. Here on KVR, over on Steinberg-net, GearSlutz, Recording.de, etc. I'm one among many.

Though I don't troll people and constantly point out that they talk out of their backside, or might have mental issues or something. I am a mere paying user that is disastisfied with what the heck is going on. And this is a webboard, where you can write your opinion. And you know how opinions are...

Hopefully you do, though.

Those directing the good ship Steinberg realise it does not appear to be sinking - if you don't like where it goes get off. I know this is not very sympathetic towards your problems but your constant whining just increases the signal to noise ratio of threads that some of us might find informative

You know where to find noise gates, if you're not happy with the signal.

I can recommend one by Variety of Sound, Fabfilter, OneSmallClue, etc... Though sadly, Kjaerhus GAG is not available anymore.

[SJ_Digriz]

This is a must for me as it has hitpoints on arrange page. That is worth 50 euros.

I'm not sure that is true. It looks like it only has tab to transients on the arrange page. Which is useless without the ability to drop and move warp markers, it is fairly useless.

(by the way, There are 10 pages I haven't read yet, just responding as I got to this). Hopefully by the time I get to the end this will have been answered.

[SJ_Digriz]

I see one important feature (for me)... Multi-Out instrument track/rack (seems to be some merging of the old VST rack and instrument tracks)

looks good other than I can't tell if you can save multiple TYPES of tracks with the preset ... so I can get my group configuration saved with the multiout VSTi.

[LawrenceF]

It looks like it only has tab to transients on the arrange page.

Looks like it kinda does what DP optionally does, starts reading all the files on import, to detect transients. It's all upside I guess, now being able to tab to transient or similar.

I think DP does an optional full read of every file like that (also pitches) so that the per-track Melodyne stuff will be immediately accessible for every track, but you can turn it off.

[LGK_Dude]

A couple of small work flow enhancements and a ton more unnecessary filler...

Groove Agent SE 4, HALion Sonic SE 2, LoopMash FX, the REVelation reverb and many more… items that you will never use if you have any half descent VSTs...

I really wish Steinberg would concentrate on the DAW not the periphery stuff, but I guess that's what marketing wants...

+1!

[SJ_Digriz]

It looks like it only has tab to transients on the arrange page.

Looks like it kinda does what DP optionally does, starts reading all the files on import, to detect transients. It's all upside I guess, now being able to tab to transient or similar.

Right, I guess it's a good starting point ... but for me provides nothing. If I could actually do some warp work when I tabbed there, now that would be something to crow about. I know a lot of beat oriented music gets value from the feature though. So, I know some will like it. I just wish it went the obvious next step.... like PT.

FWIW, I could be totally wrong. I haven't seen the product so we could be pleasantly surprised. I'm not being negative about the update. But, that particular function has been requested for close to 12 years ... with the added ability to work on the hit points in the arrange page.

[LGK_Dude]

Its you jumping on and bashing Cubase all of the time? RELAX man or get a different DAW. You are not the only one, who use Cubase. But your bashing is annoying as hell.

I'm sorry, but if people dont bring up what they DONT like about a program, then 1. you never see if others agree (which I DO) and 2. Steinberg will never get any feedback on what they might considering doing different / improving upon which would make the program better for everyone. For example, would you rather no one give you input on your music, playing, etc and simply listen to something else? I personally find NOTHING wrong with open dialog, as this is way to grow and improve. Most criticism stems from love of something and wanting it to be even better.

[traz]

this is fun! long time deserter of Cubase since 5 now with Studio One. and loving it...... so is this a paid update or a paid upgrade? Seems to me to be a lot of "promoters" of Steinberg here. take it for what it is, pay or don't... that is what will make the difference. what would happen if Microsoft wanted a paid update to dodgy software? going to get a Friday scotch ....later

[SODDI]

Hey, Cubase guy - it's "Black Friday" and there are a lot of good deals out there, a lot of money being spent.

I just spent some money on an upgrade with Native Instruments, who have ALWAYS provided me with quality merchandise and good service at a fair price. I trust Native Instruments a lot and I will continue to do business with them into the conceivable future.

I'm probably going to spend some money with LinPlug this week - they have an interesting product at a reasonable price and a good reputation.

Out of the several hundred dollars I plan to spend over the next couple weeks, NOT ONE RED CENT will be spent on anything from Steinberg or Yamaha. I do not trust your company anymore - and I have been with Cubase since the Atari days and have spent a couple thousand dollars on your products. I trusted your company up until now.

You sold me an incomplete, broken version of Cubase 7 for $250 in July of 2013. All the subsequent revs have also been broken and incomplete. And now you expect me to pay for an alleged fix? For probably the same amount that that I spent on a superb, huge Native Instruments upgrade?

How do I even know that the 7.5 upgrade isn't broken and incomplete as well? Do you expect me to trust your company and just shell out my money to a company that has already cheated me?

NO. In the future I will probably be buying new soundcards, new virtual instruments and effects, a new audio editor and more. None of them will be Yamaha or Steinberg products - I will not even consider them as viable. When I can afford it, when it's time to buy a new DAW, for the first time in over 20 years it will not be Cubase.

[Alfalfa]

As I wrote earlier in this thread, I think it's great, especially the Instrument Tracks enhancements. Then if 8 works over the windowing management and some looping enhancements to Arranger Track, I can retire my feature requester badge forever.