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The Props just tend to go their own way, sometimes ahead of the curve, sometimes behind it, but almost always with their own slant on things. I'd never suggest that Reason has all the features I'd like it to have, but I still haven't found a program that's more fun or inspiring to use. It's the most sound design friendly environment I've ever worked in and the modularity allows rack devices to combine in ways that become more than the sum of their parts. Nothing is more subjective than workflow though, so I totally understand if others don't find it appealing.

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There also are some feats that other DAWS dont have or not as good like them cables and the sampling and chop ways but this is taste things 8) .

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I just hope they add more knobs and buttons on the Combinator. That thing is so damn powerful.

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krucial wrote:I just hope they add more knobs and buttons on the Combinator. That thing is so damn powerful.
I asked and suggested it for two years and there is about a full Army of older users that asked and suggested but they did not bring it up yet ! we still wait for that super Combi with 8knobs and them x/y axes mod :D

I bet we will have to spend a upgrade for that or buy it as a RE :D at the end of the day I use Reason because it's just so cool :)

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I like Reason I love the idea but..


- Do the filters in Thor, Subtractor, Malstrom and other devices use Zero Delay Feedback tech or Band limited Oscillators yet? I don't know how hard it would be to implement something like that in Reason but i imagine the results would sound very awesome in the Reason environment. For exmamples of the sound of what this tech would bring to reason check out sound demos of D16 LuSH-101, U-he DIVA, DiscoDSP Corona.




- Where is the option for disk streaming samples in NN-XT? As far as I remember they still used RAM memory for this. This would enable much more realistic sounding libraries.


- Does the rv7000 or Scream device feature the ability to load high quality IRs yet for new spaces and cabinets?


- Advanced editing of the scream distortion module to allow tweaking of the underlying algorithms similar to what Izotope trash offers.


- Multiband splitter device? How hard would that be to implement and it would have offered a TON of sound design options. I would have much rather have this than the Automatic thingy.


Honestly I think they should have hired D16, U-he, Cytomic to help them rewrite a bunch of their existing stuff instead of going with RE devices. It would probably piss off the users who have slow ass computers but they could leave a switch to let them use the classic sound.

I like the RE idea though but i think they could have won major kudos from the reason community by revamping their existing stuff like they did with the Dr Rex.
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C+C+ wrote:
krucial wrote:I just hope they add more knobs and buttons on the Combinator. That thing is so damn powerful.
I asked and suggested it for two years and there is about a full Army of older users that asked and suggested but they did not bring it up yet ! we still wait for that super Combi with 8knobs and them x/y axes mod :D

I bet we will have to spend a upgrade for that or buy it as a RE :D at the end of the day I use Reason because it's just so cool :)
8knobs? I am hoping for 32 knobs and 32 buttons :). It could just have different layers that you can hide etc. It would even be cooler if we could make our own combi they supply the parts we put it together.

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Good thoughts Vort3x. I just hate that we have to discuss it all here.

Shutting down their forums was not a good move AT ALL...and BTW, I love Reason. I have 7 and Rewire within Cubase 7. A great setup for me!

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krucial wrote:
C+C+ wrote:
krucial wrote:I just hope they add more knobs and buttons on the Combinator. That thing is so damn powerful.
I asked and suggested it for two years and there is about a full Army of older users that asked and suggested but they did not bring it up yet ! we still wait for that super Combi with 8knobs and them x/y axes mod :D

I bet we will have to spend a upgrade for that or buy it as a RE :D at the end of the day I use Reason because it's just so cool :)
8knobs? I am hoping for 32 knobs and 32 buttons :). It could just have different layers that you can hide etc. It would even be cooler if we could make our own combi they supply the parts we put it together.
yhea a combi constructor would be nice and also was asked millions of times :D not that much but yes !

they got a big task all the year long because doing what the users ,the devs and themselfs whant inside Reason make it a long list that never ends unless they take a break.

we may get Lucky with all that because they will probably go this way in the futur upgrades I guess on the side of all the rest :D

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V0RT3X wrote:

- Multiband splitter device? How hard would that be to implement and it would have offered a TON of sound design options. I would have much rather have this than the Automatic thingy.
Did you miss the Yoko multiband splitter?

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zeebot wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:

- Multiband splitter device? How hard would that be to implement and it would have offered a TON of sound design options. I would have much rather have this than the Automatic thingy.
Did you miss the Yoko multiband splitter?

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Checked it out. I kind of wish propellerheads brought something like this out earlier before releasing RE devices.
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V0RT3X wrote:Do the filters in Thor, Subtractor, Malstrom and other devices use Zero Delay Feedback tech or Band limited Oscillators yet? I don't know how hard it would be to implement something like that in Reason but i imagine the results would sound very awesome in the Reason environment. For exmamples of the sound of what this tech would bring to reason check out sound demos of D16 LuSH-101, U-he DIVA, DiscoDSP Corona.
AntidoteRE uses ZDF filters, but as this developer thread thoroughly and combatively explores, ZDF doesn't automatically equate to better sounding filters at all:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396440
V0RT3X wrote:Where is the option for disk streaming samples in NN-XT? As far as I remember they still used RAM memory for this. This would enable much more realistic sounding libraries.
My most desired feature. If not NNXT or Kontakt Player RE, then the ability to host standalone Kontakt like a rewire slave similar to how it has for Rebirth. I do currently use the external MIDI device with Kontakt and it works surprisingly well, at least for orchestral instruments where a few MS of delay makes very little difference.
V0RT3X wrote:Does the rv7000 or Scream device feature the ability to load high quality IRs yet for new spaces and cabinets?
REs can't load external samples yet, so this will require an SDK update.
V0RT3X wrote:Multiband splitter device?
There are already several REs that provide frequency band splitting and it's been possible with the MClass Stereo Imager for ages (only 2 bands though). I think the highest quality, most comprehensive tool for this sort of thing right now is 4Dyne. Beyond its own multiband compression, it opens up numerous multiband processing possibilities. The backend routing flexibility is insane:
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V0RT3X wrote:I like the RE idea though but i think they could have won major kudos from the reason community by revamping their existing stuff like they did with the Dr Rex.
That would be nice and they've done this a little bit in the past (adding live sampling to various devices, improved mixer EQ and LFO syncing etc...), but it's historically been pretty conservative. Perhaps to preserve full backward compatibility. Who knows.

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C+C+ wrote:I asked and suggested it for two years and there is about a full Army of older users that asked and suggested but they did not bring it up yet ! we still wait for that super Combi with 8knobs and them x/y axes mod :D
An x/y pad and snapshot on the combinator would be amazing, I can imagine multiple instruments and fx layed across the pad. Theoretically you can build an x/y type morphing device now with what is available but it would be nice to just have it in the bottom left of the combinator.

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Lunesis wrote:Like I said earlier in the thread, Props like to shoot themselves in the foot.
And they keep doing it! This forum fiasco is the latest in a long line of mistakes, miscalculations, and a stubborn and immature refusal to give the users what they want.

Or at the very least, give them answers as to why they can't.

I'm obviously not saying they need to listen to and answer every single user request every single day, but a little communication would go a long way.

I think it's basically a company-wide immaturity. Hence the "toy" tag.

If Reason wasn't so easy to use, and I wasn't so lazy, I'd have dumped it a long time ago.

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festeringheap wrote:
stroker_ace wrote:
It's not ugly; it just looks like it was made by kids for kids.
That's because Reason is just a toy.
It is 2013 and all EQ plugins developed now should have
graphical interactive spectrum displays
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The RE SDK should really be revamped soon...:(
Grumbleweed wrote:
Was Scotty given the chance to put his creative talents to good use?

Grum.
Scotty would have done a better job...:(
cyberheater wrote:I see the black friday deals really was just for friday. Sigh...
Yeah, I passed on Revival last night and it was gone from temptation this morning.

I did notice when I was checking out the site that their security certificate was renewed a couple of weeks ago. Props are on the ball.
Part of the reason I moved on, not going back either...the direction they are choosing to go now with barely adding anything in a update and releasing a ton of RE's for you to pay for separately plus not be able to resell them left a bad taste in my mouth. Not only that but the only way to activate the software is thru their site so if they were to go out of business, you won't be able to activate your software or rack extensions lol no thanks...they can keep that.smh

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