KVR Audio

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:34 pm

Another example is they keep saying rack instruments now support multi-input routing, yet they never click the button ... two of the videos hover over the button to say what it will do, but they don't click the button. Then, the DV47 dude says in one that he shows it in the GA4 video , but he doesn't, he just says you can. Unfortunately, that kind of stuff worries me.

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:35 pm

fmr wrote:
fandango wrote:
soundpalace wrote:If I purchase an upgrade to Cubase 7 now (from 6.5), then I will get the 7.5 upgrade to free right? I'm guessing this is a cheaper way into 7.5 for 6.5 users like myself?
Details for 7.5 grace period are here:
http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/gra ... _info.html

I activated the 7 upgrade 2 days ago (was hesitant to install following comments here about it, but wanted upgrade option before price increases came into effect) so, yep, you could upgrade to 7 now and be included in grace period to 7.5.
Can you elaborate on this? If I upgrade now from 6.5 to 7, how much do I save compared to buy the upgrade after the launching of Cubase 7.5?

Sorry, I should have elaborated on that part. Steinberg increased the price of upgrades on October 15th, so I purchased the 7 upgrade before those prices came into effect (and hence a minor saving on that front).

However, due to issues around the 7 release, I've been experimenting with the Cubase 7 Trial instead and decided to hold off until 7.5 reared it's head. At this point, I decided a) I was interested in the 7.5 features and b) that this was a good opportunity to get back on board again during the grace period.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:36 pm

fmr wrote:
fandango wrote:
soundpalace wrote:If I purchase an upgrade to Cubase 7 now (from 6.5), then I will get the 7.5 upgrade to free right? I'm guessing this is a cheaper way into 7.5 for 6.5 users like myself?
Details for 7.5 grace period are here:
http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/gra ... _info.html

I activated the 7 upgrade 2 days ago (was hesitant to install following comments here about it, but wanted upgrade option before price increases came into effect) so, yep, you could upgrade to 7 now and be included in grace period to 7.5.
Can you elaborate on this? If I upgrade now from 6.5 to 7, how much do I save compared to buy the upgrade after the launching of Cubase 7.5?

If you ACTIVATE C7 ... not buy C7, within the grace period you will get 7.5 for free. So, if you can run around and find a C7 upgrade somewhere, you will save whatever the 7.5 upgrade is in your currency.

mkdr · Post by **mkdr** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:36 pm

Compyfox wrote: And I still saw massive ASIO spikes in the presentation videos as well (take note of the red LED indication in the ASIO meter).

It's a Mac.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:41 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
fmr wrote:
fandango wrote:
soundpalace wrote:If I purchase an upgrade to Cubase 7 now (from 6.5), then I will get the 7.5 upgrade to free right? I'm guessing this is a cheaper way into 7.5 for 6.5 users like myself?
Details for 7.5 grace period are here:
http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/gra ... _info.html

I activated the 7 upgrade 2 days ago (was hesitant to install following comments here about it, but wanted upgrade option before price increases came into effect) so, yep, you could upgrade to 7 now and be included in grace period to 7.5.
Can you elaborate on this? If I upgrade now from 6.5 to 7, how much do I save compared to buy the upgrade after the launching of Cubase 7.5?
If you ACTIVATE C7 ... not buy C7, within the grace period you will get 7.5 for free. So, if you can run around and find a C7 upgrade somewhere, you will save whatever the 7.5 upgrade is in your currency.

I can still order on Steinberg shop, but the upgrade from 6.5 to 7 currently costs 199,00 euros. I doubt they will charge more when 7.5 becomes available. It's already quite expensive. Will they? Guillermo?

Tronam · Post by **Tronam** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:03 pm

Since the recent upgrade price hike my SX3 license only amounts to a $100 discount off the full price. While I fully acknowledge the age of my product license, $399 for a returning customer upgrade has got to be one of the steepest in the industry. It would be cheaper to buy second hand.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:10 pm

i'm afraid there are enough user out there willing to pay every shit steinberg asked for.

on a personal note: i have the money but its a principle question for me and i decided not to support this price policy anymore. the whole trouble with the v7 indeed made the decision alot easier.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:54 pm

mkdr wrote:
Compyfox wrote: And I still saw massive ASIO spikes in the presentation videos as well (take note of the red LED indication in the ASIO meter).
It's a Mac.

I also have the RED LED spikes on Windows on plugin load.

mkdr · Post by **mkdr** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:25 am

Compyfox wrote:
mkdr wrote:
Compyfox wrote: And I still saw massive ASIO spikes in the presentation videos as well (take note of the red LED indication in the ASIO meter).
It's a Mac.
I also have the RED LED spikes on Windows on plugin load.

I don't.

The only thing your machine has in common with the Mac and uncommon with my machine is the Intel i7 processor. That is the root of your problems. Change that and your "Asio spikes" will disappear. Blaming Intels poor design on Steinberg isn't fair.. as clearly there's nothing wrong with the software, or ASIO.

billcarroll · Post by **billcarroll** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:26 am

LawrenceF wrote:
timbesamusca wrote:I watched this video and (apart from the new look of the rack and the quick controls) I see him do nothing new with it which couldn't already be done by the current version.

He says that it's a new function to be able to load a multitimbral instrument in the rack and add multiple midi tracks and activate multiple outputs of the VSTI. But this has been possible for years already. Or am I missing something?
My understanding of the main improvements there are ...

1. Instrument tracks are now multi-output and multi midi channel.
2. You no longer have to keep clicking the same menu over and over to activate multiple outputs. That drove some people nuts. Now that list stays open while you activate how many outputs you want.
3. I think you can rename instruments in the rack now to avoid the 1,2,3, numbering that got confusing when you loaded multiple instances of the same instruments.

Multi output instrument tracks is pretty big for Cubase because the old rack didn't save templates. Now - I would presume - you can save an instrument track preset for anything, even your full drum setup. I say that assuming that the instrument track template now will capture a multioutput setup and the FX for the multiouts.

At least a good portion of 7.5 are things people have been directly asking for, which is good.

The new Instrument Racks look like they are worth the upgrade alone. Add Instant transient navigation, TrackVersions, and serious improvements to Groove Agent. I really think the Cubase 7.5 upgrade is a winner and well worth the price.

Now I hope they add bounce in place and make it work as well as it does in Studio One.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:51 am

mkdr wrote:The only thing your machine has in common with the Mac and uncommon with my machine is the Intel i7 processor. That is the root of your problems.

No, it is not.

mkdr wrote:Change that and your "Asio spikes" will disappear. Blaming Intels poor design on Steinberg isn't fair.. as clearly there's nothing wrong with the software, or ASIO.

Yes there is.

Because - and I emphasize on it yet again, repeat myself for the n-th time even and you still won't believe me - it doesn't matter what CPU, what OS, or what ADC you use... the ASIO system if faulty. And to be a bit more precise: this particular readout (the red spike LED) mostly happens with the 32bit version, and rarely in the 64bit one.

I didn't waste months with testing on several computers (with the help from fellow engineers), different drivers and ADCs just to make sh*t up. Which, interestingly enough, backs up a lot of negative comments towards the ASIO load and behavior in general on Steinberg.net, GearSlutz, KVR and to a certain extend also Recording.de (which is a huge "entry level" music making community).

Funny that we're all wrong and obviously stupid.

Not funny however is that this was yet another attempt to derail the thread.

D.H. Miltz · Post by **D.H. Miltz** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:12 am

Compyfox, I don't really see that one as derailment. You're both talking about Cubase and problems thereof. You're disagreeing, but it's on topic.

I did however, just get rid of some posts that were derailments. I don't have the patience to go back through the thread to split it, but I will henceforth be deleting off-topic posts without comment.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:29 am

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auron · Post by **auron** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:43 am

I am happy to get the update. What i wanted to know, if the instrument rack can be stored as a preset (say you have 10 plugins loaded) and recall that in another project.

Cubase 7.5 official announcement!