The All In One Source Bitwig Information & Speculation Thread

[ThomasHelzle]

There is a built in sampler like Live. You can set it up with multiple samples for different keys, velocity levels on the same keys and stuff like that. Its not as deep as kontakt though in terms of features since kontakt is pretty complex and allows stuff like scripting.

Any instruments you want to load into it will have to be in it's own format, otherwise you'll have to set it up load each individual sample in yourself.

It will come with it's own library of sampler instruments. I don't really know how many or how good they are. Companies may eventually sell libraries in bitwig format like some do for Live, but then again there were never that many that sold in Live's format.

I just recently found that you can drop sf2 libraries on the sampler, so while it's still not as deep as Kontakt, you should be able to feed it rather well and simple

I personally am not too hot on too involved internal instruments or gigantic in-host libraries anymore. Mostly because I can't use them anywhere else. So I prefer using Kontakt or other VSTs for the more involved stuff.
Before I had Kontakt, I bought some libraries for Lives Sampler but hardly ever used them. Thankfully they were mostly from Soniccouture and you can cross-grade to the Kontakt version...

IMO it makes little sense for a DAW to get into "Sampler-Wars" as long as the instrument isn't a VST/AU to be used elsewhere.

The current content is a nice solid base to get you started. Not sure how final it is though.

Cheers,

Tom

[guppi]

The swing options looks great, thank you
I really hope that there will be a way to swing your delays. I don' want to spend
179$ for Echoboy, even last Fridays 99$ seems a bit steep.

I couldn't see any timestrechting or granular stuff in the sampler module?
Would be great to have.

I think when Bitwig arrives it will be a huge step for having fun again with your DAW. I'm going to combine it with a Nektar P6 Keyboard and ...be kind of out of the box

[Ogopogo]

That's cool about the soundfonts.

Personally I would prefer to use stuff in the bitwig format so I don't have to deal with routing or multiple windows, and because I'm a casual one dude operation so I don't need to work with different systems.

I do agree that trying to rival kontakt or something is probably fruitless, you'd still have people making stuff mostly for kontakt because it's the standard and it would take a lot of development time.

The sampler looks great even though its not exactly top of the line, you can really do a lot with the "basics" that it has. Scripting and the like is really "premium" type stuff and you can make a great sounding instrument without it. The only thing I'm missing is round robin, even just for drums that is really nice, but I have a feeling it will make its way in there eventually.

I really wouldn't complain if you could load kontakt instruments though.

[Cyoon]

i do not fancy inbuilt librarys and stuff, make your own

I would much prefer a light but stable system with essential features for live performance in the first place. Then maybe later add up more stuff carefully.

[memyselfandus]

i do not fancy inbuilt librarys and stuff, make your own

I would much prefer a light but stable system with essential features for live performance in the first place. Then maybe later add up more stuff carefully.

I would Love some sort of internal Bread and Butter library. one of the best things about Reason. you would have to Load them anyway. so if they had this option you could just not load it? I'm sick of using a million vst's. I know what your saying though.

[Ogopogo]

^there is a factory library, as Thomas said, so no worries there.

Thomas also mentioned something about a content tool at one point that would help you download what you wanted. That might be interesting to know more about. Does it mean that if you don't like a particular plugin or library you can just get rid of it and reinstall later if you feel like it? I use so few of the plugs in live, it seems like the rest just serve to make using the browser more cumbersome.

[ThomasHelzle]

The swing options looks great, thank you
I really hope that there will be a way to swing your delays. I don' want to spend
179$ for Echoboy, even last Fridays 99$ seems a bit steep.

I couldn't see any timestrechting or granular stuff in the sampler module?
Would be great to have.

I think when Bitwig arrives it will be a huge step for having fun again with your DAW. I'm going to combine it with a Nektar P6 Keyboard and ...be kind of out of the box

Ah sorry, somehow I forgot that part of the question: The audio effects don't seem to have swing control (or I'm blind).
What HAS swing buttons is the Step MOD modulation tool and the Arpeggiator.

There are no modes in the sampler and I don't know how it does it's stretching/pitching internally, sorry.
No grain stuff either that I could see.

I'm eyeing the Nectar P6 myself. Claes showed me at the party how it works and it's really awesome with the big colour display where you really see what you do in Bitwig and can do real deep editing remotely. I'm not 100% convinced of the keys (I seem to have a weird taste with keyboards - I only ever liked one, the Doepfer LMK 3 1.0 LOL) but otherwise it's quite tasty and seems perfectly connected with BWS.

Cheers,

Tom

[ThomasHelzle]

The Content Manager is great - it's exactly the tool that's missing in Live.
Install, Uninstall, Update your content.
Hide it and it will download in the background...



The current content may or may not be final, so please take it with a grain of salt.

Cheers,

Tom

[pdxindy]

There is a built in sampler like Live. You can set it up with multiple samples for different keys, velocity levels on the same keys and stuff like that. Its not as deep as kontakt though in terms of features since kontakt is pretty complex and allows stuff like scripting.

Any instruments you want to load into it will have to be in it's own format, otherwise you'll have to set it up load each individual sample in yourself.

It will come with it's own library of sampler instruments. I don't really know how many or how good they are. Companies may eventually sell libraries in bitwig format like some do for Live, but then again there were never that many that sold in Live's format.

I just recently found that you can drop sf2 libraries on the sampler, so while it's still not as deep as Kontakt, you should be able to feed it rather well and simple

I personally am not too hot on too involved internal instruments or gigantic in-host libraries anymore. Mostly because I can't use them anywhere else. So I prefer using Kontakt or other VSTs for the more involved stuff.
Before I had Kontakt, I bought some libraries for Lives Sampler but hardly ever used them. Thankfully they were mostly from Soniccouture and you can cross-grade to the Kontakt version...

IMO it makes little sense for a DAW to get into "Sampler-Wars" as long as the instrument isn't a VST/AU to be used elsewhere.

The current content is a nice solid base to get you started. Not sure how final it is though.

Cheers,

Tom

Agreed... It is not possible to compete with Kontakt anyway... If you want lots of big sample libraries, just get Kontakt.

On the other hand, I don't particularly like Kontakt as a sample mangling tool. It is too big and complex. It also doesn't actually sample.

I really like Geist for fast sampling/re-sampling and experimentation. Geist is great for setting up kits from my own synth sounds. It made fun what used to be tedious.

So my ideal sampler for Live and Bitwig would be super fast to sample my own sounds and fun and creative for doing so and for mangling sampled material. It would not waste one moment trying to have orchestral libraries and so on. I think it would be great for Bitwig to have a functionality to auto sample a synth and/or re-sample itself. That would be a way to take some of my favorite sounds from my 3rd party synths and be able to play them in a Bitwig instrument along with note expression and all the bitwig tools.

[Ogopogo]

That content manager looks great. Just one more "hey, that makes perfect sense" thing. Could you get rid of one of the factory effects if you didn't want it?

[ThomasHelzle]

So my ideal sampler for Live and Bitwig would be super fast to sample my own sounds and fun and creative for doing so and for mangling sampled material. It would not waste one moment trying to have orchestral libraries and so on. I think it would be great for Bitwig to have a functionality to auto sample a synth and/or re-sample itself. That would be a way to take some of my favorite sounds from my 3rd party synths and be able to play them in a Bitwig instrument along with note expression and all the bitwig tools.

Well, since sf2 is supported, that should be possible with tools that are available already.
Over time a lot will become possible with the SDK, Nodes etc.

Cheers,

Tom

[memyselfandus]

The Content Manager is great - it's exactly the tool that's missing in Live.
Install, Uninstall, Update your content.
Hide it and it will download in the background...



The current content may or may not be final, so please take it with a grain of salt.

Cheers,

Tom

very nice! thanks!

[pdxindy]

So my ideal sampler for Live and Bitwig would be super fast to sample my own sounds and fun and creative for doing so and for mangling sampled material. It would not waste one moment trying to have orchestral libraries and so on. I think it would be great for Bitwig to have a functionality to auto sample a synth and/or re-sample itself. That would be a way to take some of my favorite sounds from my 3rd party synths and be able to play them in a Bitwig instrument along with note expression and all the bitwig tools.

Well, since sf2 is supported, that should be possible with tools that are available already.
Over time a lot will become possible with the SDK, Nodes etc.

Cheers,

Tom

Possible and fast and fun are different...

[Muziksculp]

Hi,

How many machines can one install Bitwig Studio on ?


i.e if I need it installed on one Laptop, and two desktops .. Can that be done ?

I'm guessing you can authorize more than one computer to run BStudio at the same time ? (Yes/No) ?

What about their licensing, what scheme will they use ? Challenge/Response, or just a simple Online Registration/Authorization scheme, or ... ? I know they won't use a dongle, or any HW-Key scheme authoriz. system.

Thanks,
Muziksculp

[Ogopogo]

I just realized they have a new little blurb on their site that must have gone up around the same time the audio clips vid did.

Bounce and slice
Bitwig Studio includes versatile audio rendering functions that let you directly bounce any selected clip or time selection in place or to a new track, as well as giving you the option to automatically slice audio material to be used in the drum machine or sampler.

http://bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio