Drag-Drop Midi Kludge & Discovered Workaround

[Cswa]

Whenever I try to Drag-Drop Midi from RapidComposer to SonarX2, nothing happens. The good news is that I can work around this by Dragging the Midi-File or Track into an open Windows Folder first. Then from the Folder I can subsequently drag into SonarX2. Not sure why this cannot be done directly.

I also have MakeMusic-Finale2013 and Drag-Dropping Midi into Finale is even more cumbersome. It, like Sonar, cannot take Midi-Files or Midi-Tracks directly; again nothing happens. If I also try to Drag the Midi into a Windows open Folder then subsequently into Finale, what happens is that Finale will not place the Midi into the Current-Project, but rather Finale opens an entirely NEW Project with ONLY that particular bit of Midi or the entire Midi-Composition if it was a Multi-Track Type Midi-Drag. Then next the Second-New-Project in Finale has to have the desired Midi-Data copied and transferred into the original desired Track.

Image-Line-FL-Studio has just crashed trying to add Midi from a Ricochet Windows Folder. FL-Studio also does nothing when Midi-Data is Drag-Dropped directly from the RapidComposer GUI. So far NO workaround for FL-Studio.

Wondering if others are having the same experience.

Would surely be wonderful if this all could happen in one step as the tutorials indicate and as it seems to occur in Reaper.

I was using:

RapidComposer 2.52
Toshiba Qosimo X775
Windows7 HP

[dsan@mail.com]

....Whenever I try to Drag-Drop Midi from RapidComposer to SonarX2, nothing happens......

Hi Cswa,
This is likely due to running the programs as administrator. Windows kills the D&D between programs when running programs as administrator. I have run into this issue many times and have found dragging from a saved location to be the best option (like you have found too ) It's a bit more cumbersome but works none the less.

Happy Musiking!
dsan

[musicdevelopments]

MIDI drag-and-drop is a complete mess. All apps implement it differently. The format of the data put in the clipboard is not standardized.
We tried to find a 'compatible' solution. RapidComposer writes the MIDI data to a temporary file, then drags the reference to that file, just like using drag-and-drop from the windows explorer. This also does not work well with all DAWs. This is a known issue, so we'll try to improve drag-and-drop in the future. Sorry for the annoyance.

Thanks,
Attila

[tonedef71]

MIDI drag-and-drop is a complete mess. All apps implement it differently. The format of the data put in the clipboard is not standardized.
We tried to find a 'compatible' solution. RapidComposer writes the MIDI data to a temporary file, then drags the reference to that file, just like using drag-and-drop from the windows explorer. This also does not work well with all DAWs. This is a known issue, so we'll try to improve drag-and-drop in the future. Sorry for the annoyance.

Thanks,
Attila

I am looking to use the Jamstix VSTi with RC to handle the creation of the percussion track. Jamstix used to support MIDI drag-and-drop, but removed the feature altogether from the last release for mostly the same reason you mentioned: lack of a reliable cross-platform way of handling drag-and-drop. For much the same reason (i.e. cross-platform hassles), sub-hosting of VSTi plugins was removed from Jamstix in its last release.

Imagine using the VSTi version of RC to host a VSTi instrument that in turn hosted VSTi instruments -- something akin to a feedback loop.

[dsan@mail.com]

These are just some of the reasons why I choose to use RC in stand alone mode, although I can appreciate why some will rather use the VST version inside a DAW.

For me setting up my ins and outs is just much easier inside a DAW than dealing with the issues of non-standardized formats.

I suppose once all these things are standardized it will become a different party.

In a way tonedef71 you can sort of do what you suggest now inside many DAWS - route this into that and that into the other and so on.

For example, I may route RC track 1 into Live channel 1, track 1, which has, oh let's say, Cantanya, and then route Live Cantanya to track two which has, oh let's say Zebra, and so on and so on.

So, with the work arounds, having D&D is not a necessity. It would, however, be a really nice feature to have sometimes though. So guess we'll just have to wait.

FWIW - BIAB uses a method, if not the same, as what Attila describes. It's not a perfect solution but as Attila points out - until things become standardized we'll just have to bear with it.

It's odd though that if my programs are NOT run as Administrator, D&D works great.

Happy Musiking!
dsan