Which synth is killing Sylenth1?

[Kriminal]

Its never ruled my vsti world. Its a horrible cheesy synth. I think its very genre specific, and the ppl who like that genre are they same ppl who vote in CM polls....

Obviously you only judge a synth by its presets, or have no idea how to program a synth, or haven't ever actually tried to program sylenth. Calling it 'genre specific' just shows the limits of your tiny imagination, or a total inability to program anything on a subtractive synth beyond a supersaw lead.

Yes, all those points are 100% correct.

[Kriminal]

Well there are those who can make synths sound good, and the others.

[Kriminal]

Sylenth1 won again the musicradar's 2013 best VST plug-in synth... it's a fair contest?

Its an out of date contest....March 2013....

Thanks for pointing that out. For a second there I nearly used out of date sounds in my music

i just wonder why it took the OP 9 months to post the results of this amazing poll...maybe it took him that long to read it. Quite a few big words in there...

[Madrayken]

While true, I found that certain sounds you'd expect Sylenth do be able to do quickly and easily are surprisingly difficult, compared to - say - Dune or Helix.

While looking for a new purchase a few months ago, I tried creating a 'Knife - Forest Families' maaaaaassssiiiiiive pad sound, since I was looking for warm bigness. Using the demo version of Sylenth, I found the classic multi-voice-stacking issue of having to massively detune in order not to get weird pulsing/phasing. Dune and Helix, on the other hand allow you to mess about with the individual voice phasing, which removes the issue completely, and produces some of the warmest, fattest, biggest pads I've had the fortune to come across.

Sylenth? I got 'Beeeeooooooooowwwwwwwwwwoooooaaaaaarrrrrggggghhhh' and that was it. Perhaps I missed something, but I went for Dune instead, and never regretted it.

[mcnelson]

Music Radar.

Nuff said.

I'm not that familiar with MusicRadar. What's the implication?

My opinion entirely, I just find some of their poll results to be quite spurious. Plus I find it heavily biased towards "traditional" (read: drums, guitar, etc) music.

NMG

[BBFG#]

Its never ruled my vsti world. Its a horrible cheesy synth. I think its very genre specific, and the ppl who like that genre are they same ppl who vote in CM polls....

Obviously you only judge a synth by its presets, or have no idea how to program a synth, or haven't ever actually tried to program sylenth. Calling it 'genre specific' just shows the limits of your tiny imagination, or a total inability to program anything on a subtractive synth beyond a supersaw lead.

Well, to be fair though, with so many choices, first impressions, however superficial, are important. Unfortunately, that means we all rely on the demos (mp3) and then the trial (kind of like dating) and then it comes down to whether it is a transitory or a meaningful relationship.

And most of us feel like we've cheated ourselves when we discovered we've wasted our time on something that could never fulfill our needs.

To each their own. Just because one finds no value in it doesn't mean that it isn't perfect for someone else.

[foosnark]

Going down the list...
1. Sylenth1: I never liked it, it looks ugly and has a silly name. So there.
2. Massive: I like it. If it didn't come with Komplete I probably wouldn't have bought it, but I'm glad I have it.
3. SynthMaker: I never felt interested in trying it.
4. Nexus: not interested.
5. Omnisphere: costs as much as Komplete or Maschine. Forget it.
6. Harmor: I can't get my head around the UI and get better results with...
7. Alchemy: YES. Eagerly awaiting Alchemy 2 in fact.
8. Zebra: Meh.
9. Ana: never tried, for no particular reason.
10. Diva: I'm just not interested in VAs in this price range I guess.
11. Reaktor: I haven't used very much except as the engine behind Spark/Razor/Monark/others, but Maschine integration is starting to change that.
12. FM8: I like. Back in the day, I had nothing but a DX-100 for a couple of years, and so I have no problem understanding Yamaha-style FM.
13. z3ta: I had the first version and loved it at the time, but I didn't really care about upgrading it.
14. Absynth: it's weird and hard to grasp. Maschine integration means I'll probably use it more.
15. Razor: this is good.

[Nielzie]

Going down the list...

So a NI fanboy eh?

[hollo]

for me...spire. similar in may ways, deeper in others. spire still needs more soundsets (i had hundreds with sylenth1)...and it needs serious cpu optimization on OS X. SERIOUS.

Have you seen the new video showing the cpu being used for sylenth1, spire v1.08 and spire v1.10? 1.10 is using half as much as 1.08 and about the same as sylenth1. Could be some massive cpu reductions coming up.

I hope they can make it soon. If one will be allowed to use many instances of
Spire -
that will be serious.

It's already possible with Zebra, but Zebra is in another class.

[PlasticSoul]

Synthmaster is the answer.

[layzer]

amazing plugin killed it 1000 times over

[C-note]

No synth will kill Sylenth unless Lennard takes it off the market. Lennard's DSP programming from 2004-5 was/is still ahead of all other synths. It's simply the right combination of algorithms, FX and features. Since Spire is mentioned here a lot and has a what, 100 page thread ongoing? I checked it out again. Evaluation:

Menu management - Sylenth is superior Note: All 512 loaded presets show up in Cubase preset drop down...nice
Sound - Spire is very good but not in Sylenth's class - Algos Algos Algos!
CPU utilization Init patch - Spire 7% Sylenth 1%
Pluck Sound - Spire 20% Sylenth 4%
Lead - Spire (Hyper Lead) 25% Sylenth (Follow) 5%
Presets in General - Spire is still a baby
Spire web demos - Average Sylenth - Excellent - Note to Devs - have great song demos
Programming capability Spire - Very good Sylenth Good

So I had some fun actually trying the different programming options in Spire. Got some really nice sounds, lot of choices, but all spoiled when I looked at the CPU usage. Much optimization needs to be done. Algos Algos Algos!

If Lennard spends/has spent even a minimum amount of time adding features and OSX 64 bit capability for the next release in 2014 then Sylenth will stay on top for many years.

[fisherKing]

in the end...who cares? a mediocre musician with a great plugin is less valuable than a great musician with a 'mediocre' plugin.

talented people find a way of making great music, with WHATEVER tools they use.

sorry, just bored with these threads. ANY synth plugin, in the right hands, can be great. and vice versa...

[yessongs]

it does not make my wishlist or exist on my HD already draw your own conclusions.

so far I have

Synthmaster
Rapture
Sample tank all 5 libraries
Z3ta
Dim pro and VI One these plus ST2 are sample players so different critter.

Wish list:
korg legacy / 61 key microcontroller
G Force Minimonsta
OPX
VB3
AAS modeling collection
NI Komplete
East West composers collection
Arturia V Collection
One or both of those Whoosh synths wave warper or whoosh if I recall correctly
Xils lab players
Alchemy
Motu MV3
Zebra
Diva
Largo
Halion
Omnisphere
Project Sam
Albion
Diversion


Presets wish list:
Harm Viser AAS
Himalaya AAS
Xenos lots of packs AAS Z3ta etc..
Vis100 Francisco's presets for rapture.
Galbanum waves for use in rapture

[Igro]

in the end...who cares? a mediocre musician with a great plugin is less valuable than a great musician with a 'mediocre' plugin.

talented people find a way of making great music, with WHATEVER tools they use.

sorry, just bored with these threads. ANY synth plugin, in the right hands, can be great. and vice versa...

indeed.