King Korg Vs. Ultranova

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Some of you might be thinking "Why does lack of realtime control make a difference? It didn't used to..."

One of the biggest ways that ITB music making's come back and influenced hardware is in realtime control.
People have become used to and expect to be able to tweak without diving through multiple menus.

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[BBFG#]

It's not so much profitability as practicality in the case of the newer Korg offerings. The newer Korgs rely on a touchscreen, a lot of knobs or both for realtime control. With a rack, none of these options really make much sense; in a lot of cases, the rack won't be anywhere near you, and in the others, you have to take your eyes and at least one hand off the keyboard you're playing to tweak it- not a great idea in a live situation. Furthermore, almost all your parameters are hard-assigned to specific CC#s; to get realtime control over a rackmount KK, you'd need to dedicate a controller just for that instrument.

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Touch Screen Editors are all the rage and do the job. Quite practical for them to produce a rack with a simple LCD and let the editor do the work. Not to mention the Nanothings they could make for them.

They've implied to me that certain rack models were great losses for them overall (and many of those were and are popular too).

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The obvious solution would to put a Bluetooth interface into the synth, and use an iPad or tablet for a wireless remote touchscreen. I'd be very surprised if we don't see at least one manufacturer go that route in the next year.

Another product I expect to see is a Bluetooth to MIDI box. I also expect as wireless remotes become more popular to see more hardware supporting OSC as a control/sync standard.

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[yul]

Old thread but I had a KK a few months back and while the thing sounded absolutely fabulous out of the box, further digging made be realize how terrible and aliased the oscs were.

So much aliasing when you struck a chord on the higher register it's audible and makes it sound bad like a 1990 vst plugin.

I don't remember the MS2K or Radias to be anywhere nearly as terrible.

I am reading much comments about how the UN sounds not so great but if this thing is anywhere better than my V-Station is beats the Korg blindfolded on the oscillator section for sure!

Yes Korg has truly much better oscillator "types" granted but, as an audiophile, it's hard to not notice the shortcomings.

Any comments on the UN are welcome! Thanks

[Fleer]

Thanks, yul, interesting observations indeed.

[zerocrossing]

Old thread but I had a KK a few months back and while the thing sounded absolutely fabulous out of the box, further digging made be realize how terrible and aliased the oscs were.

So much aliasing when you struck a chord on the higher register it's audible and makes it sound bad like a 1990 vst plugin.

I don't remember the MS2K or Radias to be anywhere nearly as terrible.

I am reading much comments about how the UN sounds not so great but if this thing is anywhere better than my V-Station is beats the Korg blindfolded on the oscillator section for sure!

Yes Korg has truly much better oscillator "types" granted but, as an audiophile, it's hard to not notice the shortcomings.

Any comments on the UN are welcome! Thanks

They don’t really alias that badly, unless you start messing with the alternate oscillator types.