KVR Audio

Jakob / Cableguys · Post by **Jakob / Cableguys** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:12 pm

New beta is up! Almost all UI fine-tunings have been done, changed the color from red to orange for better readability, we introduced preset categories in the preset browser, and both filter cutoffs can be linked.

More info and download the beta here:
http://www.cableguys.de/filter-shaper-3.html

Plus the stuff which we added with the previous beta: Linking of LFOs between parameters, a nice fade effect when switching between modulations to illustrate the changing of LFOs.

FilterShaper 3 can currently crash in some rare cases when using the selection tool in the waveform area (click and drag to select multiple points and move them, resize them..). Steffen is working on fixing that right now..

Plus an updated screenshot for you:

wesleyt · Post by **wesleyt** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:19 pm

Nice! Looking much better to my eye.

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:44 am

The new beta is so great. The UI looks far better and I really am digging the filter link, works exactly as I had hoped it would

Same points still exist as my previous post with the exception of filter link which is there. The CPU usage of this plugin is excellent too, but it's a bit hard to validate that with only one instance.

One additional little FR I propose is the ability to double click to reset knobs (as well as the existing Ctrl+click). Double click is great because it means that you don't need to reach for your computer keyboard to do this task

With regards to the filter cutoff range, perhaps consider including an optional "extended range" switch which users may optionally activate. Having the full range is essential for using this as a "filter" plugin as opposed to a modulation plugin.

Not sure how others feel about this

pauldavid · Post by **pauldavid** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:26 pm

May as well ask ...any chance of being able to add the mix amount to it all ?
I know it can be adjusted but can't control it with the envelopes at all.

Jakob / Cableguys · Post by **Jakob / Cableguys** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:31 pm

pauldavid wrote:May as well ask ...any chance of being able to add the mix amount to it all ?
I know it can be adjusted but can't control it with the envelopes at all.

Yes, modulation of Mix Amount would be nice.. but I guess it has to wait for later.

Jakob / Cableguys · Post by **Jakob / Cableguys** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:36 pm

So we're currently finalizing the preset library - it's worth to sync regularly as things are changing there, presets get overhauled and approved.

The preset library should give a good overview of what can be done with FilterShaper, and be a good starting point for own creations or, for the lazy, deliver results fast. What do you think of the current selection of presets? And do you think that there's anything missing there or under-represented?

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:09 pm

cool! bitwig style!

seriously it looks awesome!

Jakob / Cableguys · Post by **Jakob / Cableguys** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:02 am

For the more extremes examples with using FilterShaper 3, check these audio demos that KVR member Irion Da Ronin did for us. Hope you like them!

https://soundcloud.com/cableguys/sets/f ... er-3-demos

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:58 am

Great update! Looking even better now and the filter cuttof link feature is very handy

fceramic · Post by **fceramic** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:57 am

Very nice plugin, but I can't get any Cableguys plugins to receive midi signal in Ableton Live which is essential. Same with Volumeshaper - not recognized as a midi destination. The Drop and Quad Frohmage works perfectly.

core · Post by **core** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:54 am

I really like the changes in the GUI, easier on the eye for sure

Jakob / Cableguys · Post by **Jakob / Cableguys** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:10 pm

fceramic wrote:Very nice plugin, but I can't get any Cableguys plugins to receive midi signal in Ableton Live which is essential. Same with Volumeshaper - not recognized as a midi destination. The Drop and Quad Frohmage works perfectly.

Oh, it should work perfectly. That's my setup:

You can get the dialog for setting up MIDI in FilterShaper, whenever you choose a MIDI Triggered LFO Type. Hope this helps?

Jakob / Cableguys · Post by **Jakob / Cableguys** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:52 pm

soundpalace wrote:The new beta is so great. The UI looks far better and I really am digging the filter link, works exactly as I had hoped it would

Glad you like it!

soundpalace wrote:One additional little FR I propose is the ability to double click to reset knobs (as well as the existing Ctrl+click). Double click is great because it means that you don't need to reach for your computer keyboard to do this task

Double-click is already in use.. it opens the modulation panel for that knob (as an alternative to clicking on the modulation icon which is top right of a knob).

soundpalace wrote:With regards to the filter cutoff range, perhaps consider including an optional "extended range" switch which users may optionally activate. Having the full range is essential for using this as a "filter" plugin as opposed to a modulation plugin.

Not sure how others feel about this

I gave this another try and recompiled the filters to go down to 20Hz instead of 50Hz. In my opinion, all you get from setting the filter to below 50Hz is that the sound kind of disappears (or, with high resonance values, produces an undefined rumble).

I can see that this is wanted for long filter sweeps - but instead, you can just as well let the filter sweep go down to 50Hz followed by a volume fade.

To illustrate, I've just uploaded a preset "Filtersweep Fade" - you get this if you sync the library. Maybe this provides the effect you're after?

But I might be wrong and just don't get the purpose.. if so, let me know!

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:05 pm

Would it help to put a Limiter at the end of your chain in FS. I have to do this for any filter sweep on a track, otherwise when you get to the lower frequency it can get that loud rumble. A simple Limiter solves the problem.
FS is on my radar>

Jakob / Cableguys · Post by **Jakob / Cableguys** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:51 pm

soundpalace wrote:And a new problem (or one I hadn't noticed before):

- When switching to Parallel, even with each channel hard panned L and R, the signal ends up 3db louder than when it started. I'm guessing this is due to the pan law selected? I feel that a pan law which guarantees the same volume when each channel is hard panned would be more appropriate for this sort of plugin tbh.

Cheers!

Only answering now due to KVR's maintenance downtime..: Yes, right assumption, that's due to the pan law! Ideally, one could choose the pan law in use, but that would make the UI more complicated. We felt that the pan law we're using is especially nice for moving signals. And for every static signal, you can easily adjust the volume knob.

But I've just changed the Init preset to have both filters panned to the center at -6dB when in parallel filter mode.

Cableguys FilterShaper 3 Public Beta! Features and pre-sale