KVR Audio

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:28 pm

Melodyshine wrote:The "Fullness" preset is really good! The close mics sound really nice!.

Where did you find that, I can only find two nki's in the preset folder?

These samples sounds way to muffled for my taste, can't do much to tweak the sound either unfortunately.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:08 pm

"Fullness" preset is for Headroom Piano, not for Intimate Piano.

The piano was sampled every 3 keys.

The "muffled sound" is intentional, and it does well for cinematic, reverbed sound (add your own convo reverb). Check out the 5 velocity layer Headroom Piano if you want some more tweakability. And in fact, it's a lot brighter in the other 4 velocity layers.

planetearth wrote:I've already composed something with this "intimate" piano sample library, so it looks like it was worth the download!

Post the audio, please!

Melodyshine · Post by **Melodyshine** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:33 pm

Yes, the Headroom piano with the Fullness preset isn't muffled at all.

Melodyshine · Post by **Melodyshine** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:59 pm

I just played the Headroom piano with the Fullness preset once again. The sound is really amazing. It's a Yamaha piano and sounds better than Alicia's Keys.
There are just some notes where I get the feeling that the attack or timing of the note is strange.
If the producer of this piano library made a commercial version with more velocity layers, resonance, more release samples, and all 88 keys sampled, etc.., then I would definitely buy it. The sound of the close mic is so good and I am a person who can't be convinced easily.

Alex Cremers · Post by **Alex Cremers** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:24 am

Wow, I am quite surprised too. Perfect sound and extremely playable for such a 'small footprint' instrument. The Fullnes patch is my favorite as well. I have a question: Can't resonance be mimicked with scripting or some kind of program these days? That would make an already great freebie even greater!

Alex

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:28 am

Nope, you would need special samples for resonance. But it's best when it's actually mathematically modelled, and Kontakt can't quite do that.

What you could try as a workaround/stopgap measure is inserting a convolution reverb effect in Send FX and load some of factory piano IRs (for example 18 Instruments>PMI Piano Resonance), then modulate the reverb return level with CC64 (it better be continuous instead of on-off!).

Here's a patch I did for Intimate Piano just now, uses three impulse responses (piano resonance, pedal up and pedal down) in tandem. Modwheel adjusts the amount of body resonance, whereas sustain pedal adjusts the wet level of pedal up and down samples in inverse fashion (when one goes up, the other goes down). You can do the same thing on all other patches, both Intimate and Headroom Piano. Check the Auto>MIDI Automations tab

http://www.mediafire.com/download/oldxy ... nances.nki

Alex Cremers · Post by **Alex Cremers** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:18 pm

I didn't download Intimate Piano because Headroom Piano is the same piano but with more layers. Is that wrong of me?

BTW, I just read that samples of this piano are from 2002. That sorta leads me to thinking it's not going to get better than what we got now. Not that I'm complaining ... but since the piano (Headroom Piano) is soooo good, I was hoping the maker would be able do create a bigger version with release samples and resonance. I'm quite certain that the instrument, if it was for sale, would be very successful.

Alex

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:42 pm

Well, you can use this NKI patch regardless, if you put it to Instruments folder it will pick up samples from the Samples folder all the same.

Intimate piano has a different character exactly BECAUSE it uses just the pp layer. Try it.

Brother Charles · Post by **Brother Charles** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:46 pm

I was wondering if maybe PSP's PianoVerb 2 would help for letting one add "resonance"?

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:09 pm

I've downloaded Headroom Piano 4 times, but each time the zip file is corrupted and won't finish unpacking. Gonna see if I have more luck with Intimate Piano ...

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:23 pm

Try using a download manager if you can...

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:28 pm

Am using an Android device ... download just failed again (for both versions).

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:36 pm

Not sure what to suggest further, sorry for the trouble. If you can try it from a desktop not using tethering to your cellphone, that'd be great.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:38 pm

Thanks. Will try it on my laptop later ...

[edit] Got it ... used Down Them All on my lappy [/edit]

Thanks

Alex Cremers · Post by **Alex Cremers** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:44 am

Thanks for the patch, EvilDragon. Indeed, Intimate Piano also sounds very good. Whoever recorded this knew what he was doing. Is it possible to do the same 'trick' with Headroom Piano?

Alex

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