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Getting crashes every time when I try and load a reference waveform.

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aMUSEd wrote: It seems one of my ratings has been saved but not the others - do I need to resave the patch when I rate it?
No that doesn't seem to work either - I've tried resaving but every time I rate a patch the rating is gone next time I open the browser. There is just one patch that rating seems to have stuck with but I am unsure how I did that.

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aMUSEd wrote:Getting crashes every time when I try and load a reference waveform.
Right, investigating.
aMUSEd wrote:Do you mean to say the garbled preset names is copy protection? Strange approach. If so how do I get the correct names back?
Yep. Reinstalling will restore them. Shouldn't be onerous because the installer remembers where you put everything. Again, apologies - won't happen now.
aMUSEd wrote: It seems one of my ratings has been saved but not the others - do I need to resave the patch when I rate it?

No that doesn't seem to work either - I've tried resaving but every time I rate a patch the rating is gone next time I open the browser. There is just one patch that rating seems to have stuck with but I am unsure how I did that.
Weird.

I know this has worked in the recent past... and no, you don't need to resave after rating presets unless it's the currently loaded preset, in which case it treats it as an edit and will prompt for save when you navigate away - that is just in case you've made some edits you'd rather not save over the existing preset.
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DavenH wrote:
UncleAge wrote:A lot of the peaks in the 2D waveform display extend beyond the window vertically (for instance presets ThinLead2 & Tabla). Sliding the bar on the side does not bring them into view neither does using the scroll wheel on the mouse. Is this normal?
Yes that's quite normal. Cycle doesn't compress the sound at all and sometimes there are peaks. Lowering the volume slider will fix.
Good to know. So on the reference samples I'll have to adjust the overall gain prior to importing into Cycle.

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In Live, if Cycle is on-screen and I click away to TextEdit for example, when I return the Cycle window is gone. I have to click on the wrench icon in the Live window to turn it off and then on again. This only happens with the VST not the AU. The AU always reappears.

Of course this may not be an issue in Live 9

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How do I uninstall? I don't even know where this thing went in my system.

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NVRMIND I ripped it out the hard way with EASYFIND. It wouldn't let me load my own samples. Mavericks.. live 9.1 64 bit. It looked like it loaded them, but wouldn't play them. Don't know why.

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Dasheesh wrote:NVRMIND I ripped it out the hard way with EASYFIND. It wouldn't let me load my own samples. Mavericks.. live 9.1 64 bit. It looked like it loaded them, but wouldn't play them. Don't know why.
Yes I'm having the same problem, they don't play and loading them also seems to make it unstable. But it's a beta, problems like this are to be expected, actually I'm surprised at how much of it is working well given its stage in development on Mac. This synth is awesome - well worth persevering with.

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It had no problem loading my wav files. I'm on Snow Leopard though.

Also, I don't believe its supposed to play the samples. The sample waveforms are there for you to trace. The sample itself does not play. All of those presets you hear are synthesized not sample playback. You can follow along in the partial tutorial for Modelling a Guitar Sample that is at the Amaranth website.

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For me the tough part has been trying to link what I think the workflow is to the feedback on screen. It took the interview article, the video on YouTube, and the documentation at the website for me to connect the dots. Each one had a different part of the puzzle spelled out.

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Yeah I get that it isn't sample based, loading the samples is for reference, but I did expect to be able to hear something otherwise how do you know what to aim for? The main problem though is that loading a sample almost invariably leads to a crash at some point.

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Do you get crashes with the AU and the VST? I have found the AU a bit more stable on my system. Not sure why that is though.

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UncleAge wrote:Do you get crashes with the AU and the VST? I have found the AU a bit more stable on my system. Not sure why that is though.
Both

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UncleAge wrote:It had no problem loading my wav files. I'm on Snow Leopard though.

Also, I don't believe its supposed to play the samples. The sample waveforms are there for you to trace. The sample itself does not play. All of those presets you hear are synthesized not sample playback. You can follow along in the partial tutorial for Modelling a Guitar Sample that is at the Amaranth website.
Well, that creates more questions than answers. At least I understand that it wasn't supposed to play my user samples (if that's true). The thing is beautiful and it makes you want to grab a waveform and start twisting things around, but It isn't granular from what I can tell, and if it's not sample play back where do you begin? As far as I can tell you just stumble around until you come across something you like by happy accident. Good luck finding the window you need to edit to make slight changes you don't like at that point. Just not my workflow at all. I need to be able to quickly build what I want and have control over what I'm doing. That just isn't what this thing is built for. A granular oscillator engine is called pulsar train synthesis. Most granular synthesis (such as the mangle or Absynth) is a granular filter effect. This seemed to be a resynthesizer from what I could tell from a couple of hours playing around. I got the just of playing around with the presets, but too many windows, too many made up vague odd ball concepts.

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Perhaps Spectral synthesis would be a more accurate decryption.

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