KVR Audio

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:28 pm

http://synthcats.com/

best resource

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:00 am

What i would really like to see in a video is that clip start --> back to arrangement feature..

sl1914 · Post by **sl1914** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:41 pm

Has there been info about how well BWS works with HW synths?

This thread is too long to read through all 240 pages.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:45 pm

Excitement mounts to see what's in the box:

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:09 pm

Suloo wrote:What i would really like to see in a video is that clip start --> back to arrangement feature..

Not sure what you need a video for

A track is playing what's in the arrangement, then you start a clip on the same track with the follow-action "Back to arrangement", it plays back (the arrangement being muted for that time) and when the clip is finished, the playback will switch back to whatever is playing ATM in Arrangement View on that track...

One of those intriguingly simple things that makes a lot of sense IMO to bring Clip Launcher and Arrangement View closer together. In Live, they always felt like separate universes to me, which I found annoying.

Cheers,

Tom

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:18 pm

sl1914 wrote:Has there been info about how well BWS works with HW synths?

There are two "Routers" in BWS, "Hardware FX" and "Hardware Instrument".

Hardware FX has a Dropdown to select an Audio Output and one to select the Audio Input your Hardware FX is connected to. Can also be misused to export/import audio at any point in a device chain. Both Out- and Input have Gain Controls and the Effect has an overall Mix Knob.

Hardware Instrument is similar, but you can chose a Midi Out and an Audio Input.
I guess using both together you could also send Midi to external FX... or Audio to a Synth...

Since I don't have any Hardware I would want to use this way I never actually tried it...
Maybe I should resurrect my old Yamaha CS1X...

Cheers,

Tom

sl1914 · Post by **sl1914** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:55 pm

ThomasHelzle: thanks!
Does HW Instrument have some kind of latency compensation option like Live's External Instrument has?

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:02 pm

sl1914 wrote:ThomasHelzle: thanks!
Does HW Instrument have some kind of latency compensation option like Live's External Instrument has?

Not that I could see one. How would that work for external Synths anyway?

Creating an offset in existing Midi?

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:02 pm

sl1914 wrote:ThomasHelzle: thanks!
Does HW Instrument have some kind of latency compensation option like Live's External Instrument has?

Not that I could see one. How would that work for external Synths anyway?

Creating an offset in existing Midi?

sl1914 · Post by **sl1914** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:14 pm

ThomasHelzle wrote:
sl1914 wrote:ThomasHelzle: thanks!
Does HW Instrument have some kind of latency compensation option like Live's External Instrument has?
Not that I could see one. How would that work for external Synths anyway?
Creating an offset in existing Midi?

AFAIK in Live it takes into account the delay between sending a MIDI note to a HW synth and receiving the audio from the synth. Not necessarily many milliseconds, but otherwise the audio will be out of sync. It's easy to test if you play the same notes with a HW synth and some VST, recording the audio to audio tracks. Without any latency compensation the audio from the HW synth can be clearly delayed.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:41 pm

Of course - somehow I was thinking about playing the external synth live through BWS where such a compensation would be impossible without advanced time/space manipulation...

Tracks can be offset in time but not clips AFAIK. So that would have to be done manually ATM I fear...

Well, I guess that would have to be a FR after release then...

Cheers,

Tom

TabSel · Post by **TabSel** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:42 pm

What about Delay compensation in general?
Automation compensated? Automation routable to multiple destinations?

virtualmark · Post by **virtualmark** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:55 pm

TabSel wrote:What about Delay compensation in general?
Automation compensated? Automation routable to multiple destinations?

I'd also like to know this? If you add high latency plugins, does everything stay in time? Such as the automation and the display?

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:56 pm

Not my expertise but others have reported PDC to work as expected.

I don't think you can route Automation to multiple destinations but of course you can copy and paste it...

Cheers,

Tom

tooneba · Post by **tooneba** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:48 am

ThomasHelzle wrote:Of course - somehow I was thinking about playing the external synth live through BWS where such a compensation would be impossible without advanced time/space manipulation...

Tracks can be offset in time but not clips AFAIK. So that would have to be done manually ATM I fear...

Well, I guess that would have to be a FR after release then...

Cheers,

Tom

Then how could Studio One achieved this kind of plugin?
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec11/a ... htm#para11

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