KVR Audio

carrieres · Post by **carrieres** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:44 pm

improved version of Antidote's sound engine

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:35 pm

syntheticillusion wrote:i hope they will release a CM/BE version right away

there wont, doesnt make economical sense

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:53 pm

If you are waiting for CM Dune 2 then consider original release of dune to the cm version of dune,,, two years or more? that's probably how long you'll have to wait for it, hopefully dune 2 is released soon - couple of months? and that wait is long enough imo

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:06 pm

I doubt there'll be one even after 2 years. I mean, DuneCM/BE was too much of a giveaway? I wouldn't know why to pay 120€ for the effects section only.

fluffy_little_something · Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:23 pm

chk071 wrote:I doubt there'll be one even after 2 years. I mean, DuneCM/BE was too much of a giveaway? I wouldn't know why to pay 120€ for the effects section only.

I suppose that question mark was supposed to be a period, right?

While it makes sense to save effects along with patches, I agree that possibility is not worth the full prize...

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:39 pm

chk071 wrote:I doubt there'll be one even after 2 years. I mean, DuneCM/BE was too much of a giveaway? I wouldn't know why to pay 120€ for the effects section only.

In addition to the great effects, there are also 2 more banks of presets, so that's 256 more presets than the CM/BE versions, plus 12 more slots for the Mod Matrix section.

syntheticillusion · Post by **syntheticillusion** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:43 am

Examigan wrote:
chk071 wrote:I doubt there'll be one even after 2 years. I mean, DuneCM/BE was too much of a giveaway? I wouldn't know why to pay 120€ for the effects section only.
In addition to the great effects, there are also 2 more banks of presets, so that's 256 more presets than the CM/BE versions, plus 12 more slots for the Mod Matrix section.

there is 24 slots for modulation in the Beat Edition and only 12 in the CM version, but i meant is was less then a year and a half before the Beat edition came and then they released a CM version after beat which was the same minus 12 slots for modulation, but the beat edition is better then the CM one, I wanted DUNE since I tried the public beta but then the BE version came out and i didn't need the effects but i do now, so i am waiting to hear more DUNE 2 news because i want v1.4 before 2, it's GUI will be changed is the only news i heard, i like the current GUI, so i will wait impatiently until they say something, maybe follow their twitter and facebook, maybe they will post here and those places.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:34 pm

syntheticillusion wrote:
Examigan wrote:
chk071 wrote:I doubt there'll be one even after 2 years. I mean, DuneCM/BE was too much of a giveaway? I wouldn't know why to pay 120€ for the effects section only.
In addition to the great effects, there are also 2 more banks of presets, so that's 256 more presets than the CM/BE versions, plus 12 more slots for the Mod Matrix section.
there is 24 slots for modulation in the Beat Edition and only 12 in the CM version, but i meant is was less then a year and a half before the Beat edition came and then they released a CM version after beat which was the same minus 12 slots for modulation, but the beat edition is better then the CM one, I wanted DUNE since I tried the public beta but then the BE version came out and i didn't need the effects but i do now, so i am waiting to hear more DUNE 2 news because i want v1.4 before 2, it's GUI will be changed is the only news i heard, i like the current GUI, so i will wait impatiently until they say something, maybe follow their twitter and facebook, maybe they will post here and those places.

Whoops, yes you're right about the slots.

Maybe you should just buy it now, as they will probably have an upgrade path to get 2.0 anyway.

cytospur · Post by **cytospur** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:50 pm

syntheticillusion wrote:
Examigan wrote:
chk071 wrote:I doubt there'll be one even after 2 years. I mean, DuneCM/BE was too much of a giveaway? I wouldn't know why to pay 120€ for the effects section only.
In addition to the great effects, there are also 2 more banks of presets, so that's 256 more presets than the CM/BE versions, plus 12 more slots for the Mod Matrix section.
there is 24 slots for modulation in the Beat Edition and only 12 in the CM version, but i meant is was less then a year and a half before the Beat edition came and then they released a CM version after beat which was the same minus 12 slots for modulation, but the beat edition is better then the CM one, I wanted DUNE since I tried the public beta but then the BE version came out and i didn't need the effects but i do now, so i am waiting to hear more DUNE 2 news because i want v1.4 before 2, it's GUI will be changed is the only news i heard, i like the current GUI, so i will wait impatiently until they say something, maybe follow their twitter and facebook, maybe they will post here and those places.

I don't remember there ever being a public beta for DUNE. Or is public beta a euphemism for something else?

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:20 am

Dune 2 is in beta at the moment with an expanded team of testers/patch-programmers. We're discussing all kinds of things about it at the moment and a bit of feedback from the wider community might provide some useful insight.
One thing they are looking at is making it skinnable but that will require around one month of extra development time, which Rich is not sure is worth the effort.
Another thing is that it will not be backwards-compatible with patches from the original, but it will be capable of re-creating them exactly if you take a bit of time to do it manually. Some testers feel this means it shouldn't be called Dune 2 but others feel that as it is still using the same basic Differential UNison Engine that the name Dune is still appropriate (kind of how Samsung use "Galaxy" branding on all their higher-end Android devices).

Beyond that, I can tell you is that it is a big step up from the original in every way with more of everything plus a raft of new things. We're all having our say on the GUI at the moment and, as usual, doing things by committee is slow and tedious. But while we are arguing over colours, Rich is refining the DSP so no time is being squandered.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:59 am

I personally don't care if a synth has skinning...

I would much rather that month be taken to write a script that converts existing presets for Dune 2...

And yes, it should be called Dune 2 and should be capable of being run alongside Dune 1

fluffy_little_something · Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:00 am

I agree, one month just for the skin thingy is a waste of time and energy. Make a great user interface to begin with and people won't complain

It's a piece of software, not a fashionable cell phone

What I did not like with Dune 1 was for instance the boring, gloomy, artificial user interface, looked all the same, no color coding like with Waves Element etc.

I also tend to think that when a new program bears the same name as an older one, it should be compatible. They should never have named Dune 1 after the technology on which it was based in the first place. Galaxy is a general term, those phones are not based on galaxy. Not to mention probably nobody knows and cares what Dune stands for, most probably think of a sand dune, anyway

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:12 am

pdxindy wrote:I personally don't care if a synth has skinning...

Same. If it has a GUI anything like version 1, then it's gonna be great anyway.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:16 am

fluffy_little_something wrote: Make a great user interface to begin with and people won't complain

That's where it stands right now....the definition of "great user interface" can have as many meanings as there are users. For example I love the DUNE 1 interface and you clearly do not........

BONES wrote: Another thing is that it will not be backwards-compatible with patches from the original, but it will be capable of re-creating them exactly if you take a bit of time to do it manually.

Given the number of commercial banks available for DUNE 1 manually converting them will take more than a "bit of time".

Rich has said that an automatic patch converter will not be possible.........

fluffy_little_something · Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:27 am

Teksonik wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote: Make a great user interface to begin with and people won't complain
That's where it's stuck right now....the definition of "great user interface" can have as amny meaning as there are users. For example I love the DUNE 1 interface and you clearly do not........

Well, while I clearly think there are better interfaces out there, I could certainly live with Dune 1's as well. I would not waste my time playing around with skins. I have been using the same Chrome skin for at least a year now, but I know there are zillions of others out there. But as long as an interface does the trick, I want to focus on the content rather than the surface.

Dune 1 looks good, but there is something sterile, cold, and plasticky about it in my view. And it is one of those color schemes where it matters a lot if you look at the monitor horizontally or from above (as is usually the case with notebooks). From above it is lighter, horizontally however it is rather dark and the display difficult to read.

Any news on Dune 2? (Out Now!!!)