Cubase SX vst overload

[HanafiH]

Doesn't need to be that low most of the time anyway. I find 10-20 ms.

I start getting irritated above 6ms as I can hear the 'disconnect' of my playing. 12ms for example drives me up a wall for real time playing!

Devon

A 6ms electronic latency is equivalent in every respect to the speed of sound in air over roughly 6' 6". How close to your speakers do you need to be?

“Although it may take several thousand data bus operations to completely scan the keyboard and establish the appropriate oscillator CVs, you perceive no delay between keystroke and the note produced because of the speed at which the program is executed. The basic program ‘loops’ every 6ms (166 time a second) to maintain the current status of the machine. Any status change such as a keystroke extends the loop time to about 11ms.”

Prophet-5 Synthesizer Manual, Second Edition, Sequential Circuits, 1981, page 2.10

[Crackbaby]

DevonB: Coward ...

Hardware synths have a latency of 10ms or something dont they? I have never heard anyone even mention latency before softsynths.

[DevonB]

DevonB: Coward ...

Hardware synths have a latency of 10ms or something dont they? I have never heard anyone even mention latency before softsynths.

Not coward, just have better things to do than wasting time in a pissing contest with you over something you started.

As for the timing, I haven't heard it in hardware that I own. I can hear it when changing the latency timing on my soundcard though. If it's 6ms, I don't hear it, change it to 12ms, and I hear it. Others it doesn't bother, but it bugs me.

Devon

[Marc JX8P]

I think it's all a question of getting used to the latency. Some acoustic instruments have a kind of latency too - a piano only starts to make noise after the hammer has struck the string and a guitar only when your fingers or the plectrum have released the string. There's almost always a delay between touching the relevant actuator and the resulting sound and you tend to adjust. This means that you can get used to a micro low latency as well as a higher one between the regions of 5 and 20 ms. How much you notice that delay is up to each person individually, I guess.

[HanafiH]

Hardware synths have a latency of 10ms or something dont they? I have never heard anyone even mention latency before softsynths.

Latency was a real issue when soundcards had latency times above about 30ms. This is the Haas threshold, below which the human ear is incapable of distinguishing between contiguous sounds.

In point of fact the propagation delay of a hammer action grand piano is between 4ms and 8ms depending on how hard the keys are struck. The player learns to compensate.

[Crackbaby]

Not coward, just have better things to do than wasting time in a pissing contest with you over something you started.
Devon

Well, you did start quoting me, right..?
You said that my reply was ignorant.
And if you have better things to do, why did you ever quote me?

It was so obvious that the one i quoted in my first post and called ignorant was ignorant or, perhaps, just dumb. I belive most people agree when i say that those kind of answers dont belong in a good, healthy and nice forum. You on the other hand seem to have no problem with that, only that i objected against it.

[Crackbaby]

In point of fact the propagation delay of a hammer action grand piano is between 4ms and 8ms depending on how hard the keys are struck. The player learns to compensate.

Cool facts! I wonder if pianomodules and programs for softsamplers take that in account.

By the way, i wonder how true those latencyfigures soundcards spit out are.

[DevonB]

someone in need of therapy??

"maybe, but low latency on lower end cards = hi CPU." <- LOL, what an ignorant answer.

I belive most people agree when i say that those kind of answers dont belong in a good, healthy and nice forum.

How about taking your own advise?

Devon

[topaz]

ummm,

how about if I had worded it.

Low latency on poor asio drivers would give higher cpu usage than well written ones.

Low latency = higher CPU
but not so bad on higher end cards.

someone in need of therapy??

"maybe, but low latency on lower end cards = hi CPU." <- LOL, what an ignorant answer.

[Crackbaby]

someone in need of therapy??

"maybe, but low latency on lower end cards = hi CPU." <- LOL, what an ignorant answer.

I belive most people agree when i say that those kind of answers dont belong in a good, healthy and nice forum.

How about taking your own advise?

Devon

Yes, and how if you did??

[Crackbaby]

ummm,

how about if I had worded it.

Low latency on poor asio drivers would give higher cpu usage that on well written ones.

sorry if you found my post arogant.

someone in need of therapy??

"maybe, but low latency on lower end cards = hi CPU." <- LOL, what an ignorant answer.

The one i replyed to in my first post did not express him or herself that way you did.
But again: Fast computer, three vstis and 80%. You really think that this ..: "Low latency on poor asio drivers would give higher cpu usage that on well written ones." is the answer??

[DevonB]

someone in need of therapy??

"maybe, but low latency on lower end cards = hi CPU." <- LOL, what an ignorant answer.

I belive most people agree when i say that those kind of answers dont belong in a good, healthy and nice forum.

How about taking your own advise?

Devon

Yes, and how if you did??

Devon

[Crackbaby]

[topaz]

well it aint gonna help is it.

deal with it.

You really think that this ..: "Low latency on poor asio drivers would give higher cpu usage that on well written ones." is the answer??

[Crackbaby]

DevonB: You dont/wont answer to the things i ask you.
You just slide away from the issue. Is that your style?

You did start picking on me. WHY?