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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:09 pm

Richard_Synapse wrote:About the name, there's certainly good reasons to pick a new one. But keep suggestions coming, we listen

As "un" is the spanish/french word for 1, so Dune = D1e, so a possible way to write Dune no 2 will be D2e

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:12 pm

Richard_Synapse wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:I don't care if old patches are not compatible with v2 as I have not programmed any. But if v1 and v2 are not compatible, the synth should not bear the same name in my view. Unfortunately it was more or less obvious that patches would not be compatible, otherwise v2 would have been just a cosmetic upgrade.
Yep, the biggest problem with compatibility is that users must be able to load an old project and it should work/sound exactly like before. This makes bigger structural changes to a VST/AU pretty much impossible, such as an improved patch system many asked for and which we implemented. So we need two separate DLLs/components in any case, and since this allows us to do massive changes/improvements everywhere, there's really no reason to remain backwards compatible anymore.

About the name, there's certainly good reasons to pick a new one. The main novelty of Dune 1 was the ability to modulate unison voices, however, and this is still possible in Dune 2. Other than this conceptual overlap, Dune 2 can also sound close to Dune 1, the old filter models are still available (the default filters are zero-delay feedback designs now though). But keep suggestions coming, we listen

Richard

It can still be Dune 2... if someone wants to load the old project, they keep and use Dune 1...

I like the name Dune and it has some recognition now so I hope you keep the name... unless you change it to Arrakis!

fluffy_little_something · Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:20 pm

Numanoid wrote:
Richard_Synapse wrote:About the name, there's certainly good reasons to pick a new one. But keep suggestions coming, we listen
As "un" is the spanish/french word for 1, so Dune = D1e, so a possible way to write Dune no 2 will be D2e

I guess you are overestimating most users

French, hm, how about Clair de Dune

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:22 pm

I like the name Dune also. And wouldn't it be good marketing wise calling it Dune 2 anyway? I guess a lot of people know Dune by now, also (or especially) due to the magware versions.

fluffy_little_something · Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:24 pm

Richard_Synapse wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Well, I am no expert, but I have noticed that with overlap when you have a patch with long release and hit the same key repeatedly, the sound character changes a lot with every hit because of the varying phase overlap. Some people might even like that as it might fake some kind of analog drift. Sometimes there is also a hard steal option which often leads to an audible bump, though, not really ideal for pads, but good for percussive sounds.
Then you probably want soft steal, and this is what Dune 2 does.

Dune 1 employed a fixed polyphony, which is close to analog synths, but only works well as long as the release time isn't too long, your oscillators run in continuous phase and you don't need to reset envelopes. Any of that pretty much requires a voice stealer, ihmo.

Richard

I assume that is the envelope reset vs pick-up parameter on one of my synths...
Anyway, good to hear yours has soft stealing

fluffy_little_something · Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:28 pm

Will there be a Dune 3 years down the road? I think numbering would be cheap somehow after 2...

Further suggestions: Big Dune or Dunesque (sounds elegant somehow

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Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:37 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Will there be a Dune 3 years down the road? I think numbering would be cheap somehow after 2...

like Albino 3 and Zebra 3 ?

fluffy_little_something · Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:42 pm

Kriminal wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Will there be a Dune 3 years down the road? I think numbering would be cheap somehow after 2...

like Albino 3 and Zebra 3 ?

Yes, indeed

When there are 3 or more versions, it also becomes hard to remember which version had which features.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:43 pm

Numanoid wrote:As "un" is the spanish/french word for 1, so Dune = D1e, so a possible way to write Dune no 2 will be D2e

The spanish word is "uno"

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:48 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Will there be a Dune 3 years down the road? I think numbering would be cheap somehow after 2...

Can do like Wipeout 3 -> dun3

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:50 pm

Would it be possible to add a copy paste feature on the latest 1 version that would work on Dune2, which would copy all parameters? I know sylenth has a copy function for the envelopes just can't remember if that can be copied between synths?

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:52 pm

Instead of calling the next Dune "Dune 2", they should call it "Duno"... (Dune+Uno).
that way, they reserve the "2" numbering for 2 more years...

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:18 pm

Sounds like 'Dunno" as in 'Don't know" what to call it

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:40 pm

Dude maybe?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:45 pm

mysticvibes wrote:Would it be possible to add a copy paste feature on the latest 1 version that would work on Dune2, which would copy all parameters? I know sylenth has a copy function for the envelopes just can't remember if that can be copied between synths?

Oh yes, that's a brilliant feature way too few synths have... (or i just haven't figured out how to do it, like on z3ta, where you can right click on the oscialltor tabs) Makes working with it so much easier.

Any news on Dune 2? (Out Now!!!)