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rokkon · Post by **rokkon** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:22 am

i get a lot mailer daemon: unable to deliver message notices in the last days, it looks as if i had sent mails to not existing email addresses. all those mails have porn spam content.

now of course i haven't sent those mails... so i wonder, is this a new fashion in spamming, or am i maybe infected with a virus?

maybe i'm paranoid, but i'm hesitant to buy something with my credit card on the net, as long as i'm not sure that my system is clean...

gnu23 · Post by **gnu23** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:45 am

rokkon wrote:i get a lot mailer daemon: unable to deliver message notices in the last days, it looks as if i had sent mails to not existing email addresses. all those mails have porn spam content.

now of course i haven't sent those mails... so i wonder, is this a new fashion in spamming, or am i maybe infected with a virus?

maybe i'm paranoid, but i'm hesitant to buy something with my credit card on the net, as long as i'm not sure that my system is clean...

My thory for what it's worth, since I ran up against something similar recently...

Chances are your ISP was identified as a spam relay at some point and tons of spam went out with your email address (and others at your ISP). You never saw that. Your ISP probably got black-holed for a while. Your ISP has since been fixed the problem, so all the spam being relayed through your ISPs mailer is now bouncing. Those bounce messages come back as email to you and others with addresses in your ISPs domain.

One of my ISPs had this problem (still does). They got black-holed majorly - my company even stopped accepting email from the ISP.

Shades of the old "@aol.com days" of the mid-late 90's. I dumped them - problem solved.

rokkon · Post by **rokkon** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:25 am

aha, this would be a nice explanation of that phenomenon...
only thing i wonder (if i understood everything right), when my mailservice got black-holed, wouldn't that mean that i am unable to send mails myself? i haven't had any troubles with that.

Ian B · Post by **Ian B** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:51 am

The last time I was 'accused' of sending a e-mail I hadn't, the company who recieved contacted me directly, with a right snotty e-mail, saying if they recieved one more mail from me, they would contact my ISP asking for my account to be closed for misuse. I was with AOL btw, and they were no help in sorting this out, they said just to ignore it. That wasn't much help

but at least I'd reported it and covered myself.

gnu23 wrote:Shades of the old "@aol.com days" of the mid-late 90's. I dumped them - problem solved.

Same here, no AOL means no problems since

Stupid American Pig · Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:34 am

It sounds to me like your email address was spoofed- and that you are getting all of the bounced emails back.

mffs · Post by **mffs** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:08 pm

S_A_P wrote:It sounds to me like your email address was spoofed- and that you are getting all of the bounced emails back.

It's very easy to spoof an email address actually, considering that email is made like the snail mail. It's the same like going to your local postoffice and sending a letter with whatever name you like on the envelope as the sender.
I think it's the current trend in viruses and maybe spam. There are many viruses out there that send mail using a random sender and recepient address from the address book, usually in Outlook whatever.
What one that gets such an email should do, is check the headers to see what ip address actually sent this email, if this is of any interest of course

Miles1981 · Post by **Miles1981** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:12 pm

But some smtp servers override this adress

Mighty_Hero · Post by **Mighty_Hero** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:41 pm

do this, and you'll be able to find out if you have a bot in your email.

make some fake email address for like a@autfdmtf.net and save it in your contacts. If it comes back, you have a problem. If someone replies you have found the aliens

bitcrusher · Post by **bitcrusher** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:55 pm

make some fake email address for like a@autfdmtf.net and save it in your contacts. If it comes back, you have a problem. If someone replies you have found the aliens

I just had a mental image of an alien getting Viagra ads in his email.

There are also fake "undeliverable" messages (I get several a day) which are just scams to get you to open the attachment. These will show a URL to click on to get your message, but this URL is not the URL it appears to be, so of course don't click

rokkon · Post by **rokkon** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:36 am

hm yea, looks like such an email spoof. haven't got any more of those mailer daemons recently, it's probably over. (i used to get a lot each day when it started).

i also wondered if i should do that fake email address thing, but figuerd, since none of my friends have complained so far about getting spam from me, it probably wouldn't do anything. i thought the spam-program - if it existed on my system - seemed to generate random addresses.

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:18 am

yup, same thing has happened to me; always wondered 'bout it. For what it's worth, for online forms, e-mail sign ups, etc., (but not for purchasing!) just make up a name followed by @mailinator.com. It only works for arounda day and is totally unsecure but on the sight, you can then retrieve the mail sent to the address you just made up. Free. for example;

yournamehere@mailinator.com

Now anybody could look at whaterver gets sent there. Very clever and anonymous. Cuts the spam.

rokkon · Post by **rokkon** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:50 am

cool, didn't know that mailinator thing, very handy!
now i don't need my special hotmail account any more.

am i spam?