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ferdik · Post by **ferdik** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:11 pm

I know first question is individual, but need to know in general so I get my tracks right.

1. Highest note an ordinary female singer can sing comfortable?
2. What should the highest note be in a melody making easy for crowd to sing along?

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:24 pm

Which crowd? Baritone crowd? Soprano crowd? Alto crowd? Tenor crowd?

Or your drunken neighbors?

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:27 pm

A crowd of ordinary people with no vocal training? I'm guessing they have a similar range to you or I, so go for what you can sing, or a bit higher if you're aiming it at women.

I've heard the ideal span for a vocal melody is an octave plus a fifth.

I'm sure Dr. Google would have some answers for you.

ferdik · Post by **ferdik** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:11 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:Which crowd? Baritone crowd? Soprano crowd? Alto crowd? Tenor crowd?

Or your drunken neighbors?

A party crowd! Not that drunk!

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:49 pm

just curious, what's wrong experimenting? Write the parts in the key you want, as the composition progresses you'll likely answer your own question and if it's too low or high simply transpose it. However Sendy makes a good point, likely it will be in a 'common' range (for lack of a better term) so there is your starting point. Do yourself a favor (though this could be also about production) get yourself one of these charts...makes life a lot easier

edit: took me a second to find this one, I like this because it's interactive

http://www.independentrecording.net/irn ... isplay.htm

Nystul · Post by **Nystul** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:53 pm

Glancing at a very old hymn book, I don't see any melodies that go lower than the D above middle C, or higher than the E an octave above that. For untrained chorus you would want most of notes somewhat close to the A=440 note and occasionally reaching towards this range of about an octave. For men they would be singing everything an octave lower. In theory these are are soprano parts, but by capping the high end where they do it gives most altos or basses a chance to sing in unison.

MadBrain · Post by **MadBrain** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:49 pm

I remember vocal ranges as:

Soprano: C4 to G5
Alto: G3 to C5
Tenor: C3 to G4
Bass: G2 to C4

C4 = middle C. Disclaimer: These are gross approximations and lots of people fall in between these ranges (mezzo-sopranos, baritones, etc).

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:57 pm

So now the age-old question of "BASS, how low can you go?" can finally be answered. It's G2!

DSmolken · Post by **DSmolken** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:27 am

Nystul wrote:Glancing at a very old hymn book, I don't see any melodies that go lower than the D above middle C, or higher than the E an octave above that.

Yeah, this is the best place to look. Those hymns were written to be sung by ordinary people and put in keys that would work.

High notes?