If so, how do you set up VSTi's.
I can't find a place to put the ddl's or a way to set the search path to the VST folder.
It looks like a decent program. It's listed in the quick host links.
Has anyone tried Music Studio Independence?
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- KVRian
- 1171 posts since 21 Feb, 2004
OK , well find the folder you installed it (musicstd), in, then look for the folder named plugin, dump your dll in there and restart the program.PT wrote:If so, how do you set up VSTi's.
I can't find a place to put the ddl's or a way to set the search path to the VST folder.
It looks like a decent program. It's listed in the quick host links.
I just installed it myself and although I can load a vst like string theory (which rocks by the way) it sounds all scratchy and the cpu meter overloads, its not my system I can run it well on any number of vst test hosts. This program looks really promissing it sorely needs a english help file for newbies like me. Let me know how you get along
Cheers
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- Banned
- 96 posts since 19 Aug, 2001 from Manchester
Maximillians, is the audio only bad with VSTis? It could be that your audio settings need adjusting, I used to have a lot of problems with these in the earlier incarnations of MSI and MSS, the program wouldn't even play back MIDI if the audio settings weren't to its liking!
I can heartily recommend it as the best MIDI sequencer I've ever come across, the piano roll is fantastically well designed, and the MIDI event filter is incredibly comprehensive.
It is in beta stage at the moment, I think the current program expires in early July and a newer version will then be available.
I can heartily recommend it as the best MIDI sequencer I've ever come across, the piano roll is fantastically well designed, and the MIDI event filter is incredibly comprehensive.
It is in beta stage at the moment, I think the current program expires in early July and a newer version will then be available.
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- Banned
- 96 posts since 19 Aug, 2001 from Manchester
By the way, as far as the interface goes, I remember the first time I used Music Studio Standard, it was the Japanese version, so all of the menus came up in gobbledegook, yet it was still easy to learn, way easier than using Logic, for example.
Fortunately the programmer of MSI doesn't feel it necessary to deviate from every single user interface convention in the book, unlike most other sequencer programmers.
If only other sequencers would adopt MSI's interface design, the world would be a lot better off. It's a shame that so many users are so incredibly close minded when it comes to this, they act as if 'their' interface is a message from God or something, and can't possibly be improved upon!
http://digilander.libero.it/chiediloapi ... /shame.htm
Fortunately the programmer of MSI doesn't feel it necessary to deviate from every single user interface convention in the book, unlike most other sequencer programmers.
If only other sequencers would adopt MSI's interface design, the world would be a lot better off. It's a shame that so many users are so incredibly close minded when it comes to this, they act as if 'their' interface is a message from God or something, and can't possibly be improved upon!
http://digilander.libero.it/chiediloapi ... /shame.htm
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- KVRAF
- 8103 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
I just checked the latest version of MSP (checked it out a a while back when you recommended it on some other forum 
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I really find it amazing you champion it as an example of great interface design (even posting links to an 'Interface Hall of Shame'...) It *still* breaks the golden rule in my (and most other programmers) book: it uses the same icons for different functions! Worse still, it uses a fairly standard Windows icon, a floppy disk, that represents 'save' in 99.9% of programs to access the export functions.
I know I'm not going to win around to my point of view but, well, I have to mention it.
Agree with your comments about Logic though (now there's an ironically named app...)
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)I really find it amazing you champion it as an example of great interface design (even posting links to an 'Interface Hall of Shame'...) It *still* breaks the golden rule in my (and most other programmers) book: it uses the same icons for different functions! Worse still, it uses a fairly standard Windows icon, a floppy disk, that represents 'save' in 99.9% of programs to access the export functions.
I know I'm not going to win around to my point of view but, well, I have to mention it.
Agree with your comments about Logic though (now there's an ironically named app...)
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- Banned
- 96 posts since 19 Aug, 2001 from Manchester
GaryG, I agree that the Save etc.icons need to be adjusted, each set should be in a box that says what the save,etc. functions refer to. After you've pressed each of them, it's not too difficult to remember what they do, but you're absolutely right, they do ignore the basics of interface design.
But as for the rest of the program, have you not found it to be very easy to use, even without a manual? I love the way you edit midi data from three different windows, have them all open at the same time, and use whichever one suits your needs for the particular piece of editing you are doing. So much of the program is so intuitive - you press on a patch name and it brings up a patch window so you can choose a new one - I never did work out how to do even that in Logic...
But as for the rest of the program, have you not found it to be very easy to use, even without a manual? I love the way you edit midi data from three different windows, have them all open at the same time, and use whichever one suits your needs for the particular piece of editing you are doing. So much of the program is so intuitive - you press on a patch name and it brings up a patch window so you can choose a new one - I never did work out how to do even that in Logic...
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- KVRAF
- 8103 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
Oh yeah, I found it a pretty decent app. Shame it looks like a spreadsheet 
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As for Logic, I was amazed how unintuitive it is/was (I'll never buy a Mac so it's a dead-app in my mind). Just adding instruments and getting a sound out of the thing was waaaay too difficult.
I've thrown my hat in with Tracktion for the main (so quick and easy for my kind of stuff, mainly audio) but it's midi editing is rudimentary at the moment. I'd love to see it have a fully featured editor like MSP though it probably wouldn't fit in with Tracktions 'one window' methology.
Maybe I'll use MSP for midi and export to Tracktion...
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.As for Logic, I was amazed how unintuitive it is/was (I'll never buy a Mac so it's a dead-app in my mind). Just adding instruments and getting a sound out of the thing was waaaay too difficult.
I've thrown my hat in with Tracktion for the main (so quick and easy for my kind of stuff, mainly audio) but it's midi editing is rudimentary at the moment. I'd love to see it have a fully featured editor like MSP though it probably wouldn't fit in with Tracktions 'one window' methology.
Maybe I'll use MSP for midi and export to Tracktion...
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- KVRAF
- 8103 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
nah, Buzz looks like Visio.