KVR Audio

faun2500 · Post by **faun2500** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:00 pm

So I have it...

Good lord!

All the different oscillator options are insane before you even get to the filter & modulations!

I am having a problem with the ARP. The Arp is clearly set to OFF and a 3 note chord plays 3 single sustained notes as expected but when that chord is looped in Reaper (x64) the arpeggiator of the pulse 2 switches on!!!! WTF???

maybe I need to check the firmware but has anyone else had this??

Apart from that and the big numbers I am surprised at how powerful this thing is. I do wish there was a dedicated CUTOFF & RES knobs though like on DSI tetra.

faun2500 · Post by **faun2500** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:12 pm

Updated firmware. I was 2 releases out of date.

Lets see if it fixes it.

namnibor · Post by **namnibor** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:52 pm

You *may* also check and make sure that program(s) you are experiencing this ARP behavior on are not programmed by default as ARP programs because there are quite a few that are aside from each program possessing a dedicated ARP pattern associated to it when you want to switch ARP on. You could potentially "turn off" the ARP on a program that is by default an ARP whenever you normally play it, but *unless* you program and SAVE ARP as *OFF* it will default more than likely to the program's saved state. Just something to check-out. Reaper is really great at both audio and midi so it more than likely is not Reaper. I record audio rather than midi data typically as am a "player" not a push buttons and automate everything like most Ableton Live users typically tend to be.
Hope this helps. Yes, keeping your O.S. up to date with any synth, especially new release, is paramount for functionality as intended.

faun2500 · Post by **faun2500** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:53 pm

Sent an email to support. Here is the basic problem. If anyone has any ideas about this please let me know!

"The ARP switches on automatically when a midi part is LOOPED in Reaper (x64).
I am using para-4 mode and playing a sustained 3-note chord from a midi file in Reaper and the ARP on the Pulse 2 is OFF. The sustained chord plays 3-sustained notes as expected. But then when "LOOP" is enabled in Reaper and the midi part plays over the notes become arpeggiated!
Still being looped in Reaper the Arpeggiated sound play over and I can stop it by selecting ARP on the Pulse 2, moving the "Active" dial from OFF to ON & back OFF again and the arpeggiated notes STOP and go back to the 3-note sustained chord!! As soon as the midi part loops and begins again the Pulse 2 ARP triggers again.

I can even change the arp settings when this happens and hear the effect.

I updated to latest firmware but still same. I checked the CC lanes and can't see anything.

While writing this I done some more testing and I have noticed that this bug only happens if Reapers start loop point is the same as the first midi notes. If I leave a gap of 1 beat or more before the midi part plays the ARP does not kick in!

namnibor · Post by **namnibor** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:59 pm

NOW it is sounding like a setting in Reaper rather than Pulse 2. Perhaps read in huge Reaper O.S. 4.x.x. manual pdf to see exactly all the options and definitions Reaper has for "LOOP", as loop can infer quite a few things, especially in association to notes immediately next/before.
Do know that there's "LOOP POINTS" available within envelope settings on Pulse 2 as well...might be worth checking those settings as well to ensure there's not more going on with your sound program on Pulse 2 than meets the eye or even ear.

faun2500 · Post by **faun2500** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:01 pm

namnibor wrote:You *may* also check and make sure that program(s) you are experiencing this ARP behavior on are not programmed by default as ARP programs because there are quite a few that are aside from each program possessing a dedicated ARP pattern associated to it when you want to switch ARP on. You could potentially "turn off" the ARP on a program that is by default an ARP whenever you normally play it, but *unless* you program and SAVE ARP as *OFF* it will default more than likely to the program's saved state. Just something to check-out. Reaper is really great at both audio and midi so it more than likely is not Reaper. I record audio rather than midi data typically as am a "player" not a push buttons and automate everything like most Ableton Live users typically tend to be.
Hope this helps. Yes, keeping your O.S. up to date with any synth, especially new release, is paramount for functionality as intended.

Hi, Thanks for the idea. Although the sound was made from INIT and then I saved it to number 497. I have used Reaper (all day every day) for a few years now and although in my opinion it is better than any other daw I have used (including using cubase for about 10 years) there ARE problems with Reapers midi and I know Evil Dragon could back me up on that one! lol

But this is a problem with the ARP switching on some how. It seems that it gets a message when its looped and its confusing the hell out of me but It does it every time.

Thanks again,

faun2500 · Post by **faun2500** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:02 pm

namnibor wrote:NOW it is sounding like a setting in Reaper rather than Pulse 2. Perhaps read in huge Reaper O.S. 4.x.x. manual pdf to see exactly all the options and definitions Reaper has for "LOOP", as loop can infer quite a few things, especially in association to notes immediately next/before.

Yes, I agree it sounds like a Reaper thing. I will have to take this to the Reaper forum as well.

namnibor · Post by **namnibor** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:04 pm

Do know that there's "LOOP POINTS" available within envelope settings on Pulse 2 as well...might be worth checking those settings as well to ensure there's not more going on with your sound program on Pulse 2 than meets the eye or even ear.

faun2500 · Post by **faun2500** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:04 pm

Yeah the loop points are great. Not used on this patch though.

Waldorf has confirmed this BUG!

The said they are releasing a new update in the next couple of days.

namnibor · Post by **namnibor** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:09 pm

Good to know and also that Waldorf is being so attentive to updates. Think they learned from the Blofeld debacle. Knowing Waldorf, they may have added some other "goodies" to forthcoming update!

faun2500 · Post by **faun2500** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:13 pm

Hope so. Like some fx that are obviously provided for but haven't come yet. We will have to see.

namnibor · Post by **namnibor** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:44 pm

I am only *guessing here* but I will speculate that just as the Blofeld Module had a Sample License already within it and had to pay for it to be 'unlocked', am guessing the same could very well be case for the FX...hell, I do not care as I love to support Waldorf. However, my Blofeld Keyboard just developed the 'volume output problem' and is out of warranty...sucks...but I have a Q Keyboard that's still in pristine shape and actually have used my Q more than the Blofeld Kbd.
The Pulse 2 sounds amazing. IMO it's sound totally blows away my Elektron Analog Four, which is getting sold quickly. Have loved to hate it!

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:10 pm

namnibor wrote:I am only *guessing here* but I will speculate that just as the Blofeld Module had a Sample License already within it and had to pay for it to be 'unlocked', am guessing the same could very well be case for the FX...hell, I do not care as I love to support Waldorf.

It was already discussed very early in this thread. The Pulse 2 does not offer an option to "unlock" additional FXs. Besides the CPU there is no additional DSP chip.
There is the expansion slot to attach an additional board. No idea when such board will be available and even if i would know i would not be allowed to tell without an official announcement.

Like every year Waldorf has invited the beta testers to the Musikmesse and i'll be there again. Let's see which news i will be able to hear there...

As already mentioned they to not tell everything to all beta their testers and i did not know anything about the 2-Poly filter module until it was shown at NAMM.

As mentioned in a thread at the instruments forum Waldorf is currently working on a 64-bit update for Largo.

Ingo

faun2500 · Post by **faun2500** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:38 pm

Interesting. I hope some digital fx won't be a paid upgrade. If it is I wouldn't get them as I don't like to commit fx to audio and like to have them on as plugins.

I have been sat here for hours making patches for the pulse 2 and tbh I am amazed at the complexity and love the sound. It can sound SO different by changing just a few things. Turning things UP and taking the filter down does reveal some nice character. It really sounds digital once everything is distorting and modulating, in a good way of course!

What is the problem with the A4? What is its sound? I don't have one.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:41 pm

faun2500 wrote:Interesting. I hope some digital fx won't be a paid upgrade. If it is I wouldn't get them as I don't like to commit fx to audio and like to have them on as plugins.

If you want internal FXs (besides the Drive modes which are real analog circuits) the only option wil be an expansion board which will not be free for sure.

As already mentioned there is no DSP and crating FXs with the CPU should be impossible.

Ingo

Waldorf Pulse 2: officially released (OS updated to v1.18)