FLStudio Vs Reason - Userbase
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- KVRist
- 152 posts since 23 Sep, 2003 from Oregon
If you already know FL but just want some new/different sounds, I suggest that you go shopping for some new samples and maybe a softsynth or two. If you must have Reason's samples and synths but need FL's superior sequencing then you can use Reason rewired to FL.
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- KVRist
- 444 posts since 20 Oct, 2001 from belgium
Hi,
It's always painfull (for us) to see a comparison of the sound coming from a 20mb download with that coming of a 670mb CD+ x megabytes of refills.
I guess all we can do to get rid of this is adding a couple of 100mb of samples & soundfonts to the installer.
See ya,
jmc (FL Studio)
It's always painfull (for us) to see a comparison of the sound coming from a 20mb download with that coming of a 670mb CD+ x megabytes of refills.
I guess all we can do to get rid of this is adding a couple of 100mb of samples & soundfonts to the installer.
See ya,
jmc (FL Studio)
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- KVRAF
- 7886 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
I may be correct? A simple google search will show it is correct. Reason the big brother to Rebirth? I'd say that be a stretch. I've used both. Rebirth was a total Roland 303/808 emulation, Reason is not.dick wrote:ok technically you may be correctDevonB wrote:No it wasn't. Fruity was on version 3 when Reason was introduced in early 2001 it looks like. Fruity started back in 1998, so 3 years earlier. Rebirth-338 came out in 1997.dick wrote:but i will give Reason my vote
a- because it was first and set the stage and that is much more difficult than copying
Devon
but isnt Reason the big brother of Rebirth?
cheers
Devon
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- KVRist
- 391 posts since 28 Apr, 2002
"A friend had given me a link to a reason website where user's can post their tracks and get feedback. So i fired up and started downloading some tracks from their, my first intention to checkout the music i love, which is trance. So i downloaded some tracks...
My jaw literally hit the floor No longer was i hearing some overused fruity kick sample, no longer was i hearing some overused layered 3Osc, but true professional quality tracks, no matter what genre i selected;"
What site was that. The largest and oldest is of course ReasonStation but from the years of downloading dissapointing tracks from random genres I've experienced over there, I don't believe you're talking about this site. I'd definately like to find that there's some place where people using Reason alone are across the board making excellent quality tracks.
Also, I think it's likely true that Fruity Loops historically has attracted a lot of very young people who just wanted to do music. Not that they had any real skills for making music. Reason on the other hand seemed to have attracted people who are more serious about making music. I think this is due to a number of things. Possibly the price was a factor in keeping the kiddies away. Also, the fact that it's not downloadable, you actually have to receive a boxed product. And lastly, and probably most importantly, FL is has been hacked and downloaded by the entire world of kiddies who wanted to screw around with it. Some of them probably got hooked on it and decided that they could make music and upload it. After years of this, you have an internet filled to capacity with Fruity Loops tracks made by 10 year olds.
In the end, it probably has little to do with the software they're using, but a lot to do with surrounding circumstances. I've used Fruity Loops, Orion, and Reason for years and the only thing I can say is that if I were trying to remix someone else's song, I could do any better in any of the three, but I might have an easier time doing it due to certain abilities in those programs. And when it comes to making "good" music from scratch, which is much harder my biggest problem is by far, me. Maybe with greater skills, it wouldn't matter a whole lot which of the three I used. I find that I eventually work in the same fashion in all the above with a few exceptions. In Reason, I find that it invites me to create my sound by using a lot of automation of it's synths, fx etc. In Orion, I find that I'm quick to do a lot of synth layering because it takes only a click or two to set it up. It's damn near impossible in Reason and very messy and involved in FL. In FL my drum programming is usually more intricate because of it's depth and ease of messing with drums. Otherwise, I'm doing all the same stuff regardless of the sequencer.
My jaw literally hit the floor No longer was i hearing some overused fruity kick sample, no longer was i hearing some overused layered 3Osc, but true professional quality tracks, no matter what genre i selected;"
What site was that. The largest and oldest is of course ReasonStation but from the years of downloading dissapointing tracks from random genres I've experienced over there, I don't believe you're talking about this site. I'd definately like to find that there's some place where people using Reason alone are across the board making excellent quality tracks.
Also, I think it's likely true that Fruity Loops historically has attracted a lot of very young people who just wanted to do music. Not that they had any real skills for making music. Reason on the other hand seemed to have attracted people who are more serious about making music. I think this is due to a number of things. Possibly the price was a factor in keeping the kiddies away. Also, the fact that it's not downloadable, you actually have to receive a boxed product. And lastly, and probably most importantly, FL is has been hacked and downloaded by the entire world of kiddies who wanted to screw around with it. Some of them probably got hooked on it and decided that they could make music and upload it. After years of this, you have an internet filled to capacity with Fruity Loops tracks made by 10 year olds.
In the end, it probably has little to do with the software they're using, but a lot to do with surrounding circumstances. I've used Fruity Loops, Orion, and Reason for years and the only thing I can say is that if I were trying to remix someone else's song, I could do any better in any of the three, but I might have an easier time doing it due to certain abilities in those programs. And when it comes to making "good" music from scratch, which is much harder my biggest problem is by far, me. Maybe with greater skills, it wouldn't matter a whole lot which of the three I used. I find that I eventually work in the same fashion in all the above with a few exceptions. In Reason, I find that it invites me to create my sound by using a lot of automation of it's synths, fx etc. In Orion, I find that I'm quick to do a lot of synth layering because it takes only a click or two to set it up. It's damn near impossible in Reason and very messy and involved in FL. In FL my drum programming is usually more intricate because of it's depth and ease of messing with drums. Otherwise, I'm doing all the same stuff regardless of the sequencer.
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- KVRist
- 67 posts since 13 Oct, 2002 from Melbourne Australia
ok this is the problem i haveDevonB wrote:I may be correct? A simple google search will show it is correct. Reason the big brother to Rebirth? I'd say that be a stretch. I've used both. Rebirth was a total Roland 303/808 emulation, Reason is not.dick wrote:ok technically you may be correctDevonB wrote:No it wasn't. Fruity was on version 3 when Reason was introduced in early 2001 it looks like. Fruity started back in 1998, so 3 years earlier. Rebirth-338 came out in 1997.dick wrote:but i will give Reason my vote
a- because it was first and set the stage and that is much more difficult than copying
Devon
but isnt Reason the big brother of Rebirth?
cheers
Devon
Reason started life as a Virtual Studio and the paradigm has been consistent it still looks exactly the same and has exactly the same function it models the real life studio
Fruity's focus to me is not totally consistent with the paradigm of a virtual studio to me it does not mirror the reality exactly, so when i think of fruity at the beginning it seems to just keep transforming itself and its roots to me are still evident in its design it still feels like its focus is more for the drummer and the software to me feels like it has outgrown or will very soon out grow the original design
that is probably why Reason seemed to be first
anyway no big deal the more the better
as for the demos good point i didnt take the size into account my appolgies to the fruity developers
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
I had used reason for 3 years until i was introduced to FLStudio 4.1. I instantly thought it was a way better program for multiple reasons.
A) it simply is more visually stimulating to me. reason has ugly brown and red and orange colors in it, when FL has all my fav colors of dark blue, green, and a bit of purple, particularly since you can set a background of your choice. I just go to Digitalblasphemy.com and post one of those as the background. This way i see the same colors when producing music as i do when i visualize music as i listen to it.
B)I think FLStudio is more user-friendly. The whole program is pretty much grids. You can also slice any .wav loop as opposed to reason where you have to use recyle, a seperate program (which doesn't even come with reason).
C)Most of all, i think that plug-in capabilities is what gives a program wings. It is the difference between limited and unlimited. Another thing that is stimulating to me is new and exciting instruments. Since FL has these capabilities, i can always have this luxery
Just some more thoughts on the subject from me
A) it simply is more visually stimulating to me. reason has ugly brown and red and orange colors in it, when FL has all my fav colors of dark blue, green, and a bit of purple, particularly since you can set a background of your choice. I just go to Digitalblasphemy.com and post one of those as the background. This way i see the same colors when producing music as i do when i visualize music as i listen to it.
B)I think FLStudio is more user-friendly. The whole program is pretty much grids. You can also slice any .wav loop as opposed to reason where you have to use recyle, a seperate program (which doesn't even come with reason).
C)Most of all, i think that plug-in capabilities is what gives a program wings. It is the difference between limited and unlimited. Another thing that is stimulating to me is new and exciting instruments. Since FL has these capabilities, i can always have this luxery
Just some more thoughts on the subject from me