Trap Music. Love it or Hate it?

[Compyfox]

It's a trap

I can also recommend this one:
https://soundcloud.com/yeah-dubz/sets/a ... a-mente-ep

[AliToneDen]

I think it really depends on what kind of mood I'm in...

Would I listen to trap music if I was going on a hike or walking to and from the bus stop? Probably not...

Would I listen to trap music if I was about to drink with a few buddies to go to a party? Absolutely.

I highly recommend checking out Rustie!

[skitchy]

1) Find an old 90s sample CD
2) Rip the 'demo' track that showcases the samples (badly)
3) Apply a silly amount of compression sidechained to the kick
4) Call it 'Trap Music'
5) Profit

[do_androids_dream]

I try to find the good in all music... My problem with trap is that there seems to be little evidence of any kind of personality behind it. It seems so rigidly locked in to a few key elements that it leaves very little room to be creative with it. To make matters worse, it's all so over compressed and limited that it sounds like a limp, lifeless impersonation of music to me.

That's my considered answer

My less considered answer - It's just the latest iteration of haribo music to me

I do like some tracks by that RP Boo fella though - is that trap?

[foosnark]

I highly recommend checking out Rustie!

Wait, Rustie is trap? I thought he was "wonky", though the web keeps saying he calls his own stuff "aquacrunk."

[Igro]

I believe Pretty Lights is considered glitch hop.

Well now. I'm familiar with Pretty Lights (and like some of their stuff) and never heard it called glitch hop before. Maybe whatever internet radio station I was listening to that claimed to be glitch-hop really wasn't.

It seems today people are claiming to be part of one genre just to make themselves sound cool...or whatever these darn kids are into dothing these days.
But seriously, my brother showed me a band that claimed they were drum n bass even though all their music were 4-on-the-floor 130BPM house stuff.

Some of the examples just in this thread show that to be true too. I think that's the new trend in the industry, claim to be part of a genre you aren't actually in.

Wait, I thought that we have only one name for all electronic music and it's Electro House! No?

[cron]

While on the subject of genres: what is the deal with so-called glitch-hop that has zero influence from glitch? Was there just a glitch in naming the genre?

From what I understand is that it did come from actual glitchy elements in the song with a slower tempo and a "hop" style rhythm.
I believe Pretty Lights is considered glitch hop.

His newer stuff I'm not a fan off, but a lot of the songs from "Taking Up Your Precious Time" were pretty good, with some subtle glitch, but mostly record scratches and reversals - oh and LOTs of sampling and mangling of samples from other songs, which I guess is where the "glitch" comes in.

I'm not really up on what's called glitch hop these days, but I suspect it's a hangover from earlier music. Much in the same way that the term 'dubstep' is applied to the insane mid-range stadium wobble of today. The early stuff happening in South London was very dub informed - all about sublety, space, and bass. That emphasis on the off-beat mimicing dub guitar in the more upbeat tracks, and of course those dub-like triplet echoing elements. There's no trace of dub in the stuff called dubstep these days, but the name remains.

Back to glitch-hop. The Glitch Mob seem to be the main players in what you'd call glitch hop, and one of their members, edIT, has releases going back over a decade. In about 2003, right at the tail end of the IDM scene which had grown stagnant due to everyone essentially trying to sound like Autechre's LP5, he released a record called Crying Over Pros For No Reason that is one of the most aggressively glitched records rooted in hip-hop you will ever hear.



Fast forward to about 2007 and edIT's stuff has become much more user-friendly. While still being fairly glitched, it's tending more toward the club-friendly glitch-hop sound of today.

https://soundcloud.com/busdriver-of-pro ... r-the-club

I'm not sure if I ever heard the term glitch-hop used at the time (Crying Over Pros was just called IDM) but we can see the lineage of this stuff pretty clearly. Like dubstep, I suspect the music has just changed to a point where its original tag has little descriptive meaning left.

Regarding trap, I've enjoyed it when it's been appropriated/incorporated into other stuff. I really enjoyed the whole 'witch-house' thing that was big in 2010, despite the terrible genre name. Reverby gothic shoegaze with trappy bass and percussion. The odd gunshot sample if you're feeling particularly cheeky. Lovely stuff!

I think we're looking at the opposite to glitch-hop/dubstep with trap in that the sound has been around much longer than the label. It's really just crunk (or 'curnk' as long time KVRers will know it ) with the cheap-synth melodies dialled back so you're mostly left with the 808 boom and clap dominating proceedings. It's been a fairly straightforward and steady evolution in the southern states hip-hop sound that's happened over years as far as I can see. Perhaps the new label was required due to the explosion of interest in it since the 808 became all the rage a few years back. When interest suddenly spikes, you've got a 'movement' going on, and an old name for your movement simply won't do.

[do_androids_dream]

Glitch - blimey, I for one am glad that most of that stuff has gone away. I used to be heavily into the whole glitch electronica scene years ago - heck I even released a few tunes of that style here and there. Looking back I tend to think it was mostly producers showing off what they could do with software. The problem was that it really wasn't very musical and only a handful of talented producers were actually any good at holding your attention with those kind of edits. Whenever I see the word glitch written in a review I tend to move on now...

[4damind]

Hmm... I don't like this pitched voices which is IMO a typical element of trap. It's a bit boring after some time and I find the style not very interesting. I personally would not buy or listen trap.
But "hate" is not the right description, it's music and I don't hate music But some music I would not put on my MP3 player.

[Tricky-Loops]

Glitch - blimey, I for one am glad that most of that stuff has gone away. I used to be heavily into the whole glitch electronica scene years ago - heck I even released a few tunes of that style here and there. Looking back I tend to think it was mostly producers showing off what they could do with software. The problem was that it really wasn't very musical and only a handful of talented producers were actually any good at holding your attention with those kind of edits. Whenever I see the word glitch written in a review I tend to move on now...

Now it's called "experimental" and tracks have attractive names like "Green Frog below the pink water highway" while the sound rather reminds of a damaged computer...

[do_androids_dream]

Now it's called "experimental" and tracks have attractive names like "Green Frog below the pink water highway" while the sound rather reminds of a damaged computer...

hehe indeed There's still artists who use the concept well like alva noto and pan sonic although it's more of an insult to call them glitch and all that entails (It's all that fookin' plugins fault!) - I just call it 'good music'. Now there's a novel term.

[t3toooo]

All right guys,i'm ready to review!

What do you want me to review?

[Tricky-Loops]

All right guys,i'm ready to review!

What do you want me to review?

You're ready for the wrong thread. The KVR Music Café is waiting for you...

[PurpleCatfishBettie]

[foosnark]

I'm not sure if I ever heard the term glitch-hop used at the time (Crying Over Pros was just called IDM)...

I'm quite familiar with the album -- the first track sprang to mind as soon as you mentioned edIT. I prefer it to the Glitch Mob stuff. It never occurred to me to call it glitch-hop either -- in fact I never thought "this is hip-hop" while listening to it. I suppose it fits, sort of.

Now it's called "experimental" and tracks have attractive names like "Green Frog below the pink water highway" while the sound rather reminds of a damaged computer...

Glitch came from experimental music in the first place -- first with intentionally damaged vinyl, then intentionally damaged CDs. One could argue that turntablism was kind of a form of glitch as well.