I finally had my first "The old days were better" moment

[WOK]

Today's popular Electronic music is in one word, awful. ...... but I think back to the 90's scene...... In 05', electro house was ..... But as of 2014, I see a lot of copy cat music that is only meant for drunk frat boys.

So you seem to be still quite young? When I have these moments, I am thinking of Kraftwerk's "RuckZuck", Schulze's "Mirage" or TD's "Tangram" - THAT was innovative electronic music, not todays "look how cool I am looking mixing ten different loops with my fancy lighted Ableton push button controller."

[thecontrolcentre]

It's all good. Enjoy it.

[Tricky-Loops]

I simply ignore all these "How-do-I-sound-like-Avicii" kids and listen to good music. There's more than enough out there!

I had my "I don't have to listen to the Top 40 anymore just because everyone does" moment already some years ago...

And I don't listen to mainstream (on-air) radio, either...

Of course I notice the trends, like pitchbend leads, autotuned vocals or dubstep basses - but I don't imitate them.

[cron]

Sounds to me like you just aren't engaging with music in the same way you used to. Stuff like Aphex Twin was hardly mainstream, you had to get out there and find it. There's always been great music and rubbish music, and so it will remain. Try to rediscover whatever it was that got you out there searching those off-the-radar sources and discovering music you loved.

[OzWozEre]

Of course the old days were better, we're in a decline!

Anyway, if it's regards electronic music, I blame the Americans.

Notice how how everything went to hell the moment they discovered "EDM"?

And before anyways says, "b but house music came from the States", yeah it did, in black clubs in Chicago, not the most integrated of places.

Now that that "bizzare black music" has been "sanitized" by us folks across the pond, it's now deemed safe for frat boy coed consumption.

Didn't the same thing happen with the British Invasion? Selling back its black music back to white Americans.

[Sendy]

There's a general dumbing down of culture in all walks of life. That's just how things are going.

Or maybe you're just less dumb than you used to be, and that makes everything else seem dumber.

That's entirely possible. I was pretty dumb back then, not gonna lie

There was also a completely different flow of information. I can remember the first time I heard Squarepusher. I was listening to Jazz FM and suddenly my ears pricked up, because I could hear breakbeats being used against a backdrop of Weather Report style jazz. Since mixing breaks with other styles was frowned on at the time, and it was an idea I'd had myself, I got a ridiculous sense of emboldenment from hearing it, and talking about it with my friends at college the next day.

Similarly, most musical discoveries happened by chance, on the radio, or at a friends house getting blazed. Perhaps because information moved slower back then, finding good music was a more extatic experience than it is now everything is connected? For me there's certainly a yearning and romanticism to go back to that less connected, bigger-seeming and more mysterious world, where buildings were all seperate, mysterious chambers containing who knows what? (Now we know what's in the buildings, people on the internet, fapping endlessly and playing casual games while listening to brostep and mainroom house )

[LimboLoves]

I think the main problem is we've had these songs and genre's for decades, and now people who basically operate out of the mainstream are coming in and acting like they know all the best music. It's just really annoying when I say I like Electronic music, and girls go "Omg I love Skrillex/Avicii/Martin Garrix". It just saddens me for some reason.

Sort of like if you said you liked rap music and I said OMG I love Weird Al.

[whyterabbyt]

I think the main problem is we've had these songs and genre's for decades, and now people who basically operate out of the mainstream are coming in and acting like they know all the best music. It's just really annoying when I say I like Electronic music, and girls go "Omg I love Skrillex/Avicii/Martin Garrix". It just saddens me for some reason.

Sort of like if you said you liked rap music and I said OMG I love Weird Al.

Sounds a bit like you're over-invested in the 'coolness' of obscurity. Cure that quickly, before you become a fullblown hipster.

[Kriminal]

But as of 2014, I see a lot of copy cat music that is only meant for drunk frat boys.

you do know the Beatles (for example) copied other bands...as did millions of other artists from day one

Anyways, I am asking for serious, or not so serious, advice on how to be mature about it. It really does annoy me to a high level.

Relax, and just enjoy whay YOU enjoy. Doesnt matter what other ppl do or dont do in music...

[LimboLoves]

I think the main problem is we've had these songs and genre's for decades, and now people who basically operate out of the mainstream are coming in and acting like they know all the best music. It's just really annoying when I say I like Electronic music, and girls go "Omg I love Skrillex/Avicii/Martin Garrix". It just saddens me for some reason.

Sort of like if you said you liked rap music and I said OMG I love Weird Al.

Sounds a bit like you're over-invested in the 'coolness' of obscurity. Cure that quickly, before you become a fullblown hipster.

Yes and No. I don't want to be cool but I wish what was cool wasn't cool.

[nasenmann]

There's a general dumbing down of culture in all walks of life. That's just how things are going.

Or maybe you're just less dumb than you used to be, and that makes everything else seem dumber.

That's entirely possible. I was pretty dumb back then, not gonna lie

There was also a completely different flow of information. I can remember the first time I heard Squarepusher. I was listening to Jazz FM and suddenly my ears pricked up, because I could hear breakbeats being used against a backdrop of Weather Report style jazz. Since mixing breaks with other styles was frowned on at the time, and it was an idea I'd had myself, I got a ridiculous sense of emboldenment from hearing it, and talking about it with my friends at college the next day.

Similarly, most musical discoveries happened by chance, on the radio, or at a friends house getting blazed. Perhaps because information moved slower back then, finding good music was a more extatic experience than it is now everything is connected? For me there's certainly a yearning and romanticism to go back to that less connected, bigger-seeming and more mysterious world, where buildings were all seperate, mysterious chambers containing who knows what? (Now we know what's in the buildings, people on the internet, fapping endlessly and playing casual games while listening to brostep and mainroom house )

Oh boy do i hear ya. I'm full of pre-internet romanticism (and pre-everyone-has-a-mobile, and while i'm at it, pre-a/v-physical-storage-devices-start-becoming-obsolete)
Think of the stories we can tell clueless kids in 30 years! An archaic lonely world without social networks, and with special cinemas people visit to watch porn....wtf?

[awol9000]

I miss Big Beat.

[fedexnman]

Everbody wants to sound like somebody ? This has happens in every Genre of music , tv , radio , cooking , movies , and art . Its called pop culture. It will run its course than get Nirvana'd to death . Cooking for example everything is Chopotle . So its a smoked pepper ? Buzz word , whatever . Things are popular things get changed and more Nacho Cheesier .....

[nasenmann]

I think the main problem is we've had these songs and genre's for decades, and now people who basically operate out of the mainstream are coming in and acting like they know all the best music. It's just really annoying when I say I like Electronic music, and girls go "Omg I love Skrillex/Avicii/Martin Garrix". It just saddens me for some reason.

Sort of like if you said you liked rap music and I said OMG I love Weird Al.

Sounds a bit like you're over-invested in the 'coolness' of obscurity. Cure that quickly, before you become a fullblown hipster.

Yes and No. I don't want to be cool but I wish what was cool wasn't cool.

Wait wait...if you wish what's cool wasn't cool and the other actually cool stuff gets cool instead...wouldn't you wanna be cool then? Or is it still uncool to be cool in that case?

Edit: or are you sayin that nothing should be cool? Cus that's not cool dude.

[LimboLoves]

Actually what you said kinda makes me think i'm wrong. The terrible music IS cool so that the cool music can stay underground. Ya know, like our secret.