KVR Audio

fluffy_little_something · Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:47 pm

Perfect plugins for making those infamous intros that make it look like some CD's contain 15 songs.

The_Hidden_Goose · Post by **The_Hidden_Goose** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:18 pm

I suspect 2 mins is too short for most people to be bothered with the hassle.

As a demo restriction it's pretty decent though.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:23 pm

The_Hidden_Goose wrote:I suspect 2 mins is too short for most people to be bothered with the hassle.

Just put a glitch effect on the plug, nobody is gonna notice if it is a demo version or not

fluffy_little_something · Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:36 pm

Or use time streching on the computer's clock

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:40 pm

Imagine if someone big like Aviici used the Manx Bit 100 demo in a track and some of the dropouts somehow made it into the final cut.

People would be going mad for plugins that could silence audio periodically. OMG where can I get that awesome effect that ramps the volume down to zero and holds it there for a few seconds every 2 minutes?! I MUST HAVE *THAT* AVIICI SOUND!!!

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:48 pm

Sendy wrote:Imagine if someone big like Aviici used the Manx Bit 100 demo in a track and some of the dropouts somehow made it into the final cut.

People would be going mad for plugins that could silence audio periodically. OMG where can I get that awesome effect that ramps the volume down to zero and holds it there for a few seconds every 2 minutes?! I MUST HAVE *THAT* AVIICI SOUND!!!

Yeah, the best drop is silence...

The_Hidden_Goose · Post by **The_Hidden_Goose** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:43 pm

But then it wouldn't sound like EVERY other Aviici track...

I'd have to give him at least credit for that!

The_Hidden_Goose · Post by **The_Hidden_Goose** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:44 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Or use time streching on the computer's clock

But it doesn't work!

I need a new computer again already to get these latest tips and tricks under my belt

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:11 pm

Some of the early experimental ones were quite good, some still are...then everyone and his horse (and even me) learned a few basics and pumped out a load of generic plop...

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Mon May 12, 2014 5:13 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:
ENV1 wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:The last extraordinary Synthmaker synth was Kairatune if I remember right.
No, you must be thinking of a different synth.

Kairatune is not SynthMaker, (nor SynthEdit), its entirely self-coded, IIRC in C++.
Really? Then I must have understood something wrong...

Exact. Here is his credit page:
http://futucraft.com/2011/credits/

Knobman from g200kg
musicdsp for the algorithms and many elements of the source code
Laurent de Soras for the HIIR library
mda-vst for the resonant lowpass filter algorithm

Nothing from SynthEdit nor SynthMaker.

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Mon May 12, 2014 5:49 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:I would never pay more than, say, 40 dollars for a SE synth, no matter how good it is. The only exception might be those where the developer programmed their own code. But the overwhelming majority of SE plugins use standard modules, both SE and third-party, so $40 is my limit.

I agree.

I really love all the synths made by Gunnar Ekornas (MinimogueVA, ARP2600VA, Memorymoon, Messiah, and ME80) because all the internal code of the signal treatment is totally made in C++ by themselves.

The same for all the synths made by Xavier Kalensky (Kx-Modulad, Kx-Polym-CSE, Kx-PolyMod, KX-Synth-X16, KXOMNI 600) because all the internal code of the signal treatment is totally made in C++ by himself.

The same for all the most recent synths made by Benoît Serrano by himself.

The same for all the synths made by Elektrostudio.

The same for all the synths made by TubeOhm.

The same for all the synths made by Superwave.

The same for almost all (not all in the past) the products made by GSi.

Ugo Audio used SynthEdit for the treatment in all his synths, except... Rez! In Rez he didn't use SynthEdit for the treatments (it is even compatible multicore cpu). In Rez he didn't use SynthEdit for some of the treatments... and that's probably why it is so popular compared to his other synths.

Personnaly, as you Fluff, I don't like HG Fortune synths, but he too, he uses SynthEdit only for the workflow in the synths but not for the treatments (he even gives his algorithm to other developers).

In fact, when we talk about synths made with SynthEdit we should do a fundamental difference between those which are 100% SynthEdit and those where SynthEdit was used for all except for the treatments of the signal in the modules.

But even some synths made 100% SynthEdit are really excellent. But they are rare (String Theory for example) because SynthEdit is probably better than we think (else there were no good product at all! and Ugo proved that it is possible) but is mainly an opportunity for many people to make products very easily with the worst quality letting these "invaders" provide them proudly... what makes them participate to a true flood of the market by very bad products which deserve totally this environment.

And there is also a solid argument "cons" which remains really incontestable for the opposite people: the lack of compatibility for 64-bit Windows and for OSX. Until today at least...

fluffy_little_something · Mon May 12, 2014 6:09 pm

I doubt it, at least SuperWave and TubeOhm use other people's modules, either original SE or Chris Kerry, you can see it in the module folder. Hardly any developers of SE synths know how to program themselves. If they did most of them would program the whole synth from A to Z because they know SE does not exactly enhance the reputation...

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Mon May 12, 2014 6:18 pm

zag4139@comcast.net wrote:What do you think of prices for Bruno, Alpha Ray upgrade or first versions of Gamma Ray?
Not an argument looking for thoughts on pricing on those synths.

I don't use Alpha Ray anymore but I have good memories of it.

That said, if we consider only "SynthEdit products" for LESS than the price of ONE TubeOhm product alone (good, it is incontestable) you can have TWO products from Gunnar Ekornas which are really AWESOME !!!

Memorymoon + Messiah = $40 ! (€30!)

Memorymoon is an exact emulation of the Memorymoog with added features.

And Messiah is an exact emulation of the Prophet 5 with added features.

See the description of memorymoon.

See the description of Messiah.

And two screenshots of Memorymoon then two screenshots of Messiah:

The bundle... for €30 ! ($40)

And I don't talk about the amazing emulation of the Yamaha CS-80 that they made, the ME80. He is sold alone, but also for only €30 ! ($40)

For those who don't know, this little team of developers is the same which was named Voltkitchen years ago (remember MinimogueVA and ARP2600VA) : Gunnar Ekornas and five of his friends.

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Mon May 12, 2014 6:20 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:I doubt it, at least SuperWave and TubeOhm use other people's modules, either original SE or Chris Kerry, you can see it in the module folder. Hardly any developers of SE synths know how to program themselves. If they did most of them would program the whole synth from A to Z because they know SE does not exactly enhance the reputation...

TubeOhm is even still active in the SynthEdit forum:
http://www.synthedit.com/qa/user/TubeOhm/activity

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Mon May 12, 2014 6:27 pm

And about Superwave, they don't talk about it explicitely on their website but see in their FAQ the answers to the questions Q9, Q10 and Q12. These answers are typical of SynthEdit products.

And at the end of the "Read ME.txt" file of Superwave P8 once you've installed it you have this little paragraph which says absolutely all:

A special thank you to Attila Fustos, Chris Kerry and David Haupt for their contribution of program modules included in the development of SuperWave synthesizers.

SuperWave products are developed exclusively with the SynthEdit development system.
Our warmest thanks to Jeff McClintock at SynthEdit for his kind assistance during
the development of these products.

So, SynthEdit for the main parts... and Attila Fustos, Chris Kerry and David Haupt for their contribution of program modules (in C++) included.

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