KVR Audio

artao · Post by **artao** » Fri May 02, 2014 2:30 pm

Just joined yesterday, so it looks like I got here just in time. Listened to the entries from last month yesterday. Some pretty cool stuff.
I'm new to working with DAWs, tho i've been making computer music for over a decade (mostly with ReBirth and Reason) .. Learning LMMS right now, and exploring all the VST instruments and FX available. Perhaps even getting a bit out of control with how much crap I've been downloading LOL (almost 3.5 gigs of VST plugins so far)
I look forward to entering this month. Only just DLed the synth, so I haven't messed with it yet at all.
Sure sounds like fun!

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Fri May 02, 2014 2:31 pm

z.prime wrote:
doctorbob wrote:And ... talking of FM, my DX-11 is sitting just next to me ...
I had a DX-7 for a while, before I knew anything about anything. So much hardware has come and gone through my hands... I never knew how to use it.

Quesiton: does anyone know a free VST to send the MIDI CCs for those hidden parameters? I can't seem to get it working with REAPER's MIDI tools & Bitwig is off the plate for this month, as it doesn't load FXP/FXB (argh!)...

I found a few freeware tools but none of them seem to work for me. Anyone have any other suggestions?

http://www.s-production.de/index_vst.html - S-CC-Init (looks like exactly what I want)

I know I could try it, but why not just normal CC lanes? Make an item were all are set and have them at the beginning of the project?

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Fri May 02, 2014 2:35 pm

artao wrote:Just joined yesterday, so it looks like I got here just in time. Listened to the entries from last month yesterday. Some pretty cool stuff.
I'm new to working with DAWs, tho i've been making computer music for over a decade (mostly with ReBirth and Reason) .. Learning LMMS right now, and exploring all the VST instruments and FX available. Perhaps even getting a bit out of control with how much crap I've been downloading LOL (almost 3.5 gigs of VST plugins so far)
I look forward to entering this month. Only just DLed the synth, so I haven't messed with it yet at all.
Sure sounds like fun!

Welcome

3.5GB of plugins sounds about right, better check them out all for yourself before deciding, agree. GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) is anyway a known phenomena here at KVR..

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Fri May 02, 2014 2:39 pm

bh9090 wrote:
z.prime wrote: Quesiton: does anyone know a free VST to send the MIDI CCs for those hidden parameters? I can't seem to get it working with REAPER's MIDI tools & Bitwig is off the plate for this month, as it doesn't load FXP/FXB (argh!)...
Yes this would be very helpful!

I was thinking of doing a little MaxForLive patch, but that wold only help out Live Suite users....

Oh wow... this is embarrassing.

I completely overlooked ReaControlMIDI: http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/#reacontrolmidi

It's free (part of the ReaPlugs pack) and seems to do the trick easily for up to 5 CCs per instance.

I was also thinking of writing a quick JS plug for this... but not so necessary perhaps. Will post it here, if I do; I think any host would be able to use that with the ReaPlugs pack.

Other question: is there a way to make parameter changes (e.g. automation) occur to the currently playing sound instead of only on a retrigger?

jasinski · Post by **jasinski** » Fri May 02, 2014 2:50 pm

z.prime- you can access CC# in Live 9. From within a midi clip go to the envelope view- you can select any of the CC#s up to the 80 or 90s I forget exactly (I don't know why you can't see them all the way to 128)

psmacmur · Post by **psmacmur** » Fri May 02, 2014 3:04 pm

Srsly?! After binning my PolyIblit project I spent my music time playing with VOPM & some other toys I've been meaning to get to. Was going to go further with VOPM this month anyway so this just means tackling percussion in it! Sliders are totally unintuitive but it sounds great...

urlwolf · Post by **urlwolf** » Fri May 02, 2014 6:32 pm

Could someone link to that custom skin by Jasinski? (and install intructions)

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Fri May 02, 2014 6:37 pm

urlwolf wrote:Could someone link to that custom skin by Jasinski? (and install intructions)

It's the DLL linked to from the OSC page. It's recompiled with the custom skin. Looks like this:

RuediRena · Post by **RuediRena** » Fri May 02, 2014 8:25 pm

doctorbob wrote:Gearing up - a family cooperation this time - my daughter will do some composing work and I will get on with sound design, mixing, sound mapping etc ....

Have we had coop like this before?

I did OSC 59: Junglist together with my daughter. She improvised quite some keyboard lead lines on the following track. I wish I could do this. Poor old guitar player me.

http://soundcloud.com/ruedirena/ruedire ... dig-monski

Have a nice day y'all.

chilledpanda · Post by **chilledpanda** » Sat May 03, 2014 1:25 am

z.prime wrote:
bh9090 wrote:
z.prime wrote: Quesiton: does anyone know a free VST to send the MIDI CCs for those hidden parameters? I can't seem to get it working with REAPER's MIDI tools & Bitwig is off the plate for this month, as it doesn't load FXP/FXB (argh!)...
Yes this would be very helpful!

I was thinking of doing a little MaxForLive patch, but that wold only help out Live Suite users....
Oh wow... this is embarrassing.

I completely overlooked ReaControlMIDI: http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/#reacontrolmidi

It's free (part of the ReaPlugs pack) and seems to do the trick easily for up to 5 CCs per instance.

I was also thinking of writing a quick JS plug for this... but not so necessary perhaps. Will post it here, if I do; I think any host would be able to use that with the ReaPlugs pack.

Other question: is there a way to make parameter changes (e.g. automation) occur to the currently playing sound instead of only on a retrigger?

someone did a JS one is here http://stash.reaper.fm/v/11357/CC%20to%20Parameter not tried it though, but should be easy to modify.

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:08 am

chilledpanda wrote:...
someone did a JS one is here http://stash.reaper.fm/v/11357/CC%20to%20Parameter not tried it though, but should be easy to modify.

Thanks for the tip, though that's sorta the opposite of what we need for VOPM. VOPM has some parameters that are ONLY accessible by sending CC messages, not even exposed as VST params. (Why? Oh, why?) But ReaControlMIDI does the trick sorta. It just doesn't let you play around with ALL the CC params in that list easily - limited to 5 per instance.

chilledpanda · Post by **chilledpanda** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:32 am

z.prime wrote:
chilledpanda wrote:...
someone did a JS one is here http://stash.reaper.fm/v/11357/CC%20to%20Parameter not tried it though, but should be easy to modify.
Thanks for the tip, though that's sorta the opposite of what we need for VOPM. VOPM has some parameters that are ONLY accessible by sending CC messages, not even exposed as VST params. (Why? Oh, why?) But ReaControlMIDI does the trick sorta. It just doesn't let you play around with ALL the CC params in that list easily - limited to 5 per instance.

Ah right, just seen the list on the modified image, you want something like this http://www.image-line.com/support/FLHel ... %20Out.htm

chilledpanda · Post by **chilledpanda** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:39 am

Also add you can access the CC in Reaper midi editor, bit fiddly though.

chilledpanda · Post by **chilledpanda** » Sat May 03, 2014 3:01 am

could try this, allows you to make a vst with midi controllers http://ctrlr.org/
would means someone would need to create a panel for it

bjporter · Post by **bjporter** » Sat May 03, 2014 8:00 am

The guy who made the Unofficial manual also made this guide to FM:

http://gorenfeld.net/lou/FMGuide.html

One-Synth-Challenge 63: VOPM (Ended)