Teksonik wrote:Now if I can only figure out how to use it.............Richard_Synapse wrote:Wow this is great news! Only a couple days and already a superb wavetable editor that writes our wavetables files. Thanks so much for adding Dune 2 support to it!blacktomcat666 wrote:Here are some example user wavetables made with Audio-Term 2.16 (for download link see my signature):
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/w0qe5q5r175elc ... tables.zip
Richard![]()
DUNE 2 is out now!!
-
- KVRian
- 758 posts since 29 Jun, 2009
Reason - Reaktor
- KVRAF
- 19803 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Why the head banging ? Careful your brain will bounce around in your skull like a marble inside a basketball.......Biscotto wrote:![]()
![]()
I just haven't had time to work with the App........
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 19803 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
DUNE 2 can have 8 filters.......8 different filters.....each with their own modulation......blackflag wrote:I'm really loving this synth! My only complaint is that I wish it had more than 1 filter...besides that it's perfect.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
-
- KVRian
- 1482 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK
16 if you include the effect filters.
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.
Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.
Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt
- KVRAF
- 19803 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
True..............cytospur wrote:16 if you include the effect filters.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
-
- KVRist
- 173 posts since 21 Sep, 2008
Yes I know, but I meant more than one filter in serial or parallel routing per voice. (not including the effects filters unless they plan on adding resonance knob)
Is that currently possible? Not a big deal though, I have other synths that cover that area.
Is that currently possible? Not a big deal though, I have other synths that cover that area.
-
blacktomcat666 blacktomcat666 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=77501
- KVRist
- 221 posts since 8 Aug, 2005
Yep, this is the result of a long list of additional feature and format requests over the past years. The very first version was a batch converter without GUI and with two parameters. But the results sounded often like random and very similar. Creating results beyond "sine-saw-square" or "random waves 45" requires a bit more work to get the best out of the input data.Sendy wrote:
Same here... I've sort of got a grasp on it, I managed to create SOMEthing, but it was all happening way too slowly. I'd like to be able to pick key waves, hit "interpolate", maybe choose between different types of interpolation, then export.
AT was intentionally made for my personal use and "just for fun" to learn how to code in C - my version of "Hello world".
AT consists of different sections, KTERM<> is the one for creating wavetables for Dune2 and other products. KTERM<> is an additive synth: 33 slots with 64 bipolar sine partials each. It's an emulation of the Terratec Komplexer wavetable osc, all other formats are derived from that model.
I chose this model because it has the right ratio of data amount and quality. Further many products beside Komplexer can use the results (converting wavetables which make full use of proprietary features of a certain product is much more difficult than converting normal audio data for different samplers).
AT has an automated file recognition and sorting system. It can distinguish a Komplexer *.WT file from a Dune2 *.WT file or from a Surge *.WT file... . Different file types are stored in different directories to keep track of which *.WT file belongs to a certain synth. Damaged and/or unknown formats are moved to a special 'recycle bin' folder (button RECBIN<> in the start page).
Regarding the proprietary wavetable formats (Surge, WaveGenerator, Dune2, EPS/ASR, Blofeld): AT can only load it's own files. This is a required limitation, because the formats are VERY different (in data type, size, content, number of slots). All of these formats hold special synthesis data for reloading and instant playback in the browser pages. In some cases this additional dataset is encoded in the wavetable data itself (Blofeld, Komlexer). In other cases it's appended. Editing these files outside Audio-Term will destroy these data, so don't try that if you want to reload them later in AT.
Regarding the GUI: The lower button row holds the main pages and the playback buttons. The upper row holds the functions of a page and further sub pages / input options ( in that case the button name has an <> appendix)
The KTERM main pages:
SYSTEM<>
Here you can access the playback volume and playback speed of a wavetable. you also can empty all loaded data in RAM using FLUSH.
DISK<>
Depending on the file type you have different options. For all files you can switch the pages, search for a file name (FIND<>), rename and delete a file. You further can switch between the directories of the different file types using F_TYPE<> and call the windows explorer to get direct and full access to the current directory.
Further options depend on the file type. Wavetable files can be loaded directly, samples have to be analysed first. Single cycle waves are loaded from the assembling page ASSEM<> (see below).
VIEW<>
Here you can have a look on the ram data in different modes (waveform and spectral data). Some eye candy...
SLICE<>
This is the slice editor. You have access to the 64 bipolar partials (log scaling). WDRAW<> is a sub menu to draw the content as wave. The drawing then is analyzed and resynthesized. TOOLS<> hold some makro options for the partials (like normalizing or inverting). You should try the buttons and see what happens - the app won't get broken.
ASSEM<>
Here the single cycles and wavetables in the different directories are used as 'library' to assemble new wavetables. Select source and destination slice with the SRC and DST buttons and transfer the data with SRC>DST.
ENV<>
On this page you also have access to the partials (bipolar, log scale), this time not 64 of a slice but a single partial over 33 slices of a wavetable. This is the envelope of a partial. The selected one has a fat line, all others are represented by thin lines. Very similar to the harmonic envelopes of the Fairlight CMI. On complex sounds this can look annoying. In this circumstance you can use VIEW to focus on the selcted envelope.
TEF<>
This is a special page which holds a lot of sub functions regarding
- - polarity of the partials (PLOAR<>),
- amplitude scaling (SCALE<>),
- slice reordering (ORDER<>),
- a filter (FILTER<> - basically an additional "filter" slice with 64 partials, an envelope for shifting and access to the 'library' on disk to import spectral data)
- a formant shifter (SHIFT<>),
- a generator for filling the table with symmetry-modulated waves (SYMOD<>),
- and the interpolation function (IPOL<>).
Two further additions:
OPTIMIZE button:
KTERM has an internal resolution of +-127 steps, but the dynamic of a 64 partial additive engine is much larger. Too large to use it without artificial limiting, a saw would be 50 times the amplitude if a single sine. OPTIMIZE adapts the partials to the limited waveform amplitude. In most cases this can be done automatically, but sometimes manual correction is required to get the best results out of the limted dynamic range.
POL_LOCK button:
KTERM uses bipolar sine waves, which improves the quality especially on sample resynthesis (otherwise everything would have a 'sawtooth touch'). POL_LOCK tracks each of the 64 envelopes and corrects polarity jumps. In most cases this is usefull as it makes the spectral evolution over time more stable, but it changes the sound slightly. So whenever this button appears, you should try if it sounds better with or without POL_LOCK.
Okay, this short explanation isn't a manual by far, but it explains some of my thoughts when I coded Audio-Term. I hope it was understandable a bit - I'm not a native speaker and also no sound engineer.
@Richard: It became a bit longer than planned... sorry for hijacking your thread that way.
-
- KVRian
- 1151 posts since 2 Feb, 2005
I also found only one filter in the demo. may I know how to use the rest of the 7 ?Teksonik wrote:DUNE 2 can have 8 filters.......8 different filters.....each with their own modulation......blackflag wrote:I'm really loving this synth! My only complaint is that I wish it had more than 1 filter...besides that it's perfect.
Cheers!
Cowby
-
Richard_Synapse Richard_Synapse https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=245936
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1187 posts since 20 Dec, 2010
You can have up to 8 different filters in parallel. On the right side of the interface, there's an area "Voice Edit" where you can select individual voices. Make sure Unison Voices is set to at least 2, and now you can set different filters for the first and second voice, for instance. You can also change any other voice parameter, e.g. set different oscillator types, different wavetables etc.blackflag wrote:Yes I know, but I meant more than one filter in serial or parallel routing per voice. (not including the effects filters unless they plan on adding resonance knob)
Richard
Synapse Audio Software - www.synapse-audio.com
-
Richard_Synapse Richard_Synapse https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=245936
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1187 posts since 20 Dec, 2010
We get quite a lot of service emails so it must be related to certain email servers only. We'll look into it, to see if we can improve this further.grdh20 wrote:Their service@synapse-audio email address bounces back.
Note you can also PM me here or on the Synapse Forum if you have any questions.
Richard
Synapse Audio Software - www.synapse-audio.com
- KVRAF
- 26951 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
He is asking about 1 voice with 2 filters in a serial configuration...Richard_Synapse wrote:You can have up to 8 different filters in parallel. On the right side of the interface, there's an area "Voice Edit" where you can select individual voices. Make sure Unison Voices is set to at least 2, and now you can set different filters for the first and second voice, for instance. You can also change any other voice parameter, e.g. set different oscillator types, different wavetables etc.blackflag wrote:Yes I know, but I meant more than one filter in serial or parallel routing per voice. (not including the effects filters unless they plan on adding resonance knob)
Richard
-
- KVRist
- 173 posts since 21 Sep, 2008
Richard_Synapse wrote:You can have up to 8 different filters in parallel. On the right side of the interface, there's an area "Voice Edit" where you can select individual voices. Make sure Unison Voices is set to at least 2, and now you can set different filters for the first and second voice, for instance. You can also change any other voice parameter, e.g. set different oscillator types, different wavetables etc.blackflag wrote:Yes I know, but I meant more than one filter in serial or parallel routing per voice. (not including the effects filters unless they plan on adding resonance knob)
Richard
Yea I totally understand how it works, I was just suggesting adding a second filter per voice bringing the total to 16 filters, so you could have two filters in serial per voice. This can already be done by also using the effect filter but it would be nice if it had a resonance parameter. Either way this synth is brilliant!
-
Richard_Synapse Richard_Synapse https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=245936
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1187 posts since 20 Dec, 2010
Ah ok
We could add resonance for the lowpass 2-pole, highpass 2-pole and perhaps the notch filter inside the filter FX section, shouldn't be too difficult to do, and there's enough space.
Richard
Richard
Synapse Audio Software - www.synapse-audio.com
