Your next guitar?

[hibidy]

Ibanez S5570Q Prestige in Purple Doom burst. Oh yes, it will be mine.

Ouch, man that is beautiful but really expensive!

[KrisM]

Ibanez S5570Q Prestige in Purple Doom burst. Oh yes, it will be mine.

Ouch, man that is beautiful but really expensive!

Yes it is. I won't buy one until I get my skills back to where they were 7 years ago, but it's the next guitar I purchase and I will sell two others to make room for it. I fell in love with the S series recently, and I love purple.

Luckily nobody even has them in stock until August it seems, plenty of time to get my affairs in order

[Hink]

Ibanez S5570Q Prestige in Purple Doom burst. Oh yes, it will be mine.

Ouch, man that is beautiful but really expensive!

Yes it is. I won't buy one until I get my skills back to where they were 7 years ago, but it's the next guitar I purchase and I will sell two others to make room for it. I fell in love with the S series recently, and I love purple.

Luckily nobody even has them in stock until August it seems, plenty of time to get my affairs in order

ime you'll have even longer, typically stores push that date back every few months...I waited over a year for my iso cab to be in stock anywhere, when AMS had it so did everyone else.

[tapper mike]

Ibanez S5570Q Prestige in Purple Doom burst. Oh yes, it will be mine.

Ouch, man that is beautiful but really expensive!

Yes it is. I won't buy one until I get my skills back to where they were 7 years ago, but it's the next guitar I purchase and I will sell two others to make room for it. I fell in love with the S series recently, and I love purple.

Luckily nobody even has them in stock until August it seems, plenty of time to get my affairs in order

That's a mixed bag of nuts for me. Your millage may vary.

I've tried to build up my skills while waiting for a guitar only to find that I'm not as driven for the long haul. What I've found to be true for me is once I have the guitar AND the initial quirks are worked out I find saying to myself and following through with "It's time to get better"

I don't adapt easily to new guitars. It's mostly about the neck And string width. I didn't like the tele neck when I got it. It was both wider and fatter then most "C" necks I'd had in the past. My tried and true licks didn't feel the same or play the same at first. I don't like going backwards to move forward but each guitar I've owned I've had to do exactly that. Now the neck is starting to come to life for me.

[JCJR]

I'm enjoying the guitar threads, being so ignorant of em. Of course have worked with guys playing tele's, but come to think about it can't recall having ever picked one up.

Was watching videos of tele players the other day, interested in the tele tone, and some videos gave the visual impression of thin toothpick necks swallowed up in the players hands. Won't contaminate the thread posting examples. So is it common practice for some to mount narrower necks, or did I just happen upon some videos featuring unusually large tele players? Ferinstance, jimmy herring is probably a big dude, but when he plays tele it almost looks like a kid sized geetar?

[hibidy]

Ibanez S5570Q Prestige in Purple Doom burst. Oh yes, it will be mine.

Ouch, man that is beautiful but really expensive!

Yes it is. I won't buy one until I get my skills back to where they were 7 years ago, but it's the next guitar I purchase and I will sell two others to make room for it. I fell in love with the S series recently, and I love purple.

Luckily nobody even has them in stock until August it seems, plenty of time to get my affairs in order

That's a mixed bag of nuts for me. Your millage may vary.

I've tried to build up my skills while waiting for a guitar only to find that I'm not as driven for the long haul. What I've found to be true for me is once I have the guitar AND the initial quirks are worked out I find saying to myself and following through with "It's time to get better"

I don't adapt easily to new guitars. It's mostly about the neck And string width. I didn't like the tele neck when I got it. It was both wider and fatter then most "C" necks I'd had in the past. My tried and true licks didn't feel the same or play the same at first. I don't like going backwards to move forward but each guitar I've owned I've had to do exactly that. Now the neck is starting to come to life for me.

The neck on the new one is really playable. I'm assuming that the one KrisM is looking into has a similar neck. Guitars are a trip. I've been playing the Carvin today and with the 25" scale it's SO SLINKY! Even with heavier strings.

[hibidy]

I'm enjoying the guitar threads, being so ignorant of em. Of course have worked with guys playing tele's, but come to think about it can't recall having ever picked one up.

Was watching videos of tele players the other day, interested in the tele tone, and some videos gave the visual impression of thin toothpick necks swallowed up in the players hands. Won't contaminate the thread posting examples. So is it common practice for some to mount narrower necks, or did I just happen upon some videos featuring unusually large tele players? Ferinstance, jimmy herring is probably a big dude, but when he plays tele it almost looks like a kid sized geetar?

I certainly won't be guilty of that

[KrisM]

That's a mixed bag of nuts for me. Your millage may vary.

I've tried to build up my skills while waiting for a guitar only to find that I'm not as driven for the long haul. What I've found to be true for me is once I have the guitar AND the initial quirks are worked out I find saying to myself and following through with "It's time to get better"

I don't adapt easily to new guitars. It's mostly about the neck And string width. I didn't like the tele neck when I got it. It was both wider and fatter then most "C" necks I'd had in the past. My tried and true licks didn't feel the same or play the same at first. I don't like going backwards to move forward but each guitar I've owned I've had to do exactly that. Now the neck is starting to come to life for me.

I get where you're coming from. I already own an S1XXV, the neck on the S5570Q is slightly different but not drastically so. I just can't bring myself to buy an $1800 guitar until I feel I "deserve" it. I've been playing every day for the past month and a half, now, and improving a lot faster than I thought I would. The skills are still there, just having to scrape the rust off and polish up to a nice shine

Heck I've been playing despite my left right and pinky finger being sliced open and healing >.>

I do have a little adjustment when I switch between my Ibanez or Carvin and my Strat Plus (16" and 14" radius/jumbos vs 9.5" and med jumbo frets, they're all 25.5" scales at least), but I'd get rid of the Strat before the Ibanez. I only wish I'd played an S series years ago; these are the guitars for me.

[tapper mike]

I've only shown this video about four or more times in this thread.


Warm jazzy tones from a tele.

My blacktop tele has both a thicker and wider neck then my tele copy. My tele copy has a wider neck then my strat. Really there is no one size fits all telecasters, though 50's models had a very fat deep neck with a shallow height so one could wrap your fingers around one.

As for comfort level I'd love a nice 3/4's size guitar but my tele's are standard 25.5 scale length. Some copy versions can be shorter (Valley Arts


Of all the guitars I've owned (now numbering close to 100) the tele is the most flexible aftermarket guitar I've ever owned. Where as swapping out pickups may have some effect on the total sound of any other guitar when one swaps pickups on a tele or even amps the tonal variation and possibilities become rather apparent.


Though quite often it is associated with the electric guitar players who were honky tonk / bare knuckle country players. As such a search for telecasters in general will most likely produce videos of country players.

The telecaster is iconic,
http://tappermike.com/?q=node/36

[KrisM]

I know one of the guys in Slipknot has a signature Tele. An old friend of mine, his #1 is a partscaster with a rosewood Tele-style neck on it.

But you're right about it being type-cast as a certain type of guitarist's guitar.

[JCJR]

I've only shown this video about four or more times in this thread.


Warm jazzy tones from a tele.

My blacktop tele has both a thicker and wider neck then my tele copy. My tele copy has a wider neck then my strat. Really there is no one size fits all telecasters, though 50's models had a very fat deep neck with a shallow height so one could wrap your fingers around one.
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Of all the guitars I've owned (now numbering close to 100) the tele is the most flexible aftermarket guitar I've ever owned. Where as swapping out pickups may have some effect on the total sound of any other guitar when one swaps pickups on a tele or even amps the tonal variation and possibilities become rather apparent.
...
Though quite often it is associated with the electric guitar players who were honky tonk / bare knuckle country players. As such a search for telecasters in general will most likely produce videos of country players.

The telecaster is iconic,
http://tappermike.com/?q=node/36

Thanks tapper for making such a well-composed and informative tele web page. Didn't know that esquires and jaguars are considered to be telecasters. Doh. Saw jeff beck with a yardbirds 1967 (or was it 1966?) usa tour playing what appeared to be a jaguar thru a hopped-up AC30 amp. LOUD.

A talented guitarist buddy is a geezer now. He's played the same old telecaster for decades. He'll play any kind of music for money, but happens to be the most studious local guitarist I know for jazz. He has a long attention span, still spends hours studying charts and analyzing the minutia of alternate chord progressions and melodic lines. All on the tele.

I had got the Parker Nitefly and a decent acoustic for one reason because I suck so bad on geetar, need all the help I can get, but also to have decent axes around in case guitarists come to the house and they happen to decide to record a track. Same reason I keep a drum set but can't play drums.

The Nitefly covers strat territory and holds many sounds in it, but sometimes seems more "clinical sounding" than a strat. Almost "too perfect" or whatever.

If money was no object, maybe one of these days would like to get a tele and a three pickup firebird. That selection would offer many tone options.

Because a strat bridge pickup is about as close as a tele bridge pickup, was wondering what makes the tele apparently "spankier"? Though maybe explained by the type of pickup? Seems in theory that a strat or three pickup nitefly could get all the tele tones with an added switch for bridge + neck pickup combination. But somehow seems doubtful that would happen in practice?

Was digging on teles on youtube awhile ago. These two clips seemed impressive demos of the tele tonal range. And some purt good playing as well.

[tapper mike]

There are many many reasons why tele's don't sound like strats.

Lets start with physics. When you pluck a string whether it's with finger or pick the string is being slightly pulled out of tune. As you release the string it finds the vibration path. When using a guitar with a fixed bridge it's not as noticeable, However when one has a tremolo system installed the string and the spring are both pulled. This is where the "spank" sound of a strat which is not found in a tele arises from. A fixed bridge has faster attack then a floating bridge (which was the standard for electric guitars before the tele) or a tremolo system.

The next is how the tone controls are laid out. On a traditional strat the bridge pickup is not wired to the tone controls. They are strictly for middle and bridge. Without a tone control one gets more of everything unfiltered however most strats are set up with a slightly lower bridge pickup setting to compensate for volume differences of not having a tone control. On a traditional tele the tone control controls both the bridge and the neck pickup.


Finally there is the ashtray. Early pickups were not potted. (sealed with wax) They were noisy as all get up. The only way to effectively reduce noise was to put a metal cover over the pickup. The neck pickups have covers which change the characteristics of the tone (slightly darker) The bridge pickup of early design didn't work well covered before the strings. So Fender designed the bridge plate which held the saddles and then a cover that slid over the ashtray plate. The first thing guitarist did was slide the cover off and leave it off because it was unnatural for them not to be able to touch or play the guitar near the bridge.
The plate adds mass to the top of the body

I've got too tele's One (a knock off) is closer to the original with a smaller (as found on traditional teles) covered neck pickup and an ashtray bridge. It's a very traditional tele tone. My Blacktop has alnico 5 humbuckers. The difference is night and day.

A funny thing about pickup windings. When a pickup is overwound the output increases but the treble decreases. (this is true of my blacktop tele) I'm not a fan of overwound pickups for this and another reason.... tonal clarity. If you have a moderately wound or slightly underwound pickup it reacts to nuance in technique more and it doesn't compress. Sometimes when going from subtle to overt it just makes more sense to put a stomp box compressor in your signal chain then swap pickups.

[hibidy]

Ibby went back. I kept finding quirky little things one right after another and there was a tipping point of "well, what do I have this for?"

I think too that as good as it sounds, my blue presitige was every bit as good except it doesn't really flutter. Of course the bar (like all edges/pros/etc) wouldn't stay put for fluttering anyways after a couple of weeks of wear.

[JCJR]

Thanks tapper, for the explanation of tele tone. Many things I didn't know.

[tapper mike]

Ibby went back. I kept finding quirky little things one right after another and there was a tipping point of "well, what do I have this for?"

I think too that as good as it sounds, my blue presitige was every bit as good except it doesn't really flutter. Of course the bar (like all edges/pros/etc) wouldn't stay put for fluttering anyways after a couple of weeks of wear.

Sorry it didn't work out for you. Seem the wanting is more enjoyable then the having when it comes to ibby's