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4damind · Post by **4damind** » Thu May 22, 2014 11:04 pm

Alicia Keys has a great dynamic layering, it can sound very smooth and soft but also bright with energy. It's some of the pianos I like the most for my productions.

bigcat1969 · Post by **bigcat1969** » Fri May 23, 2014 3:52 am

BlackWinny wrote:
bigcat1969 wrote:http://soundcloud.com/bigcat1969/the-whisper
The nightly ambiance of the most quiet parisian cabarets in 1910 at Montmartre...

Lovely!

I adore!

Thanks that's about the nicest thing anyone's ever said about it.

Bhan · Post by **Bhan** » Fri May 23, 2014 4:16 am

I like my Yellow Tools Piano using a Kurzweil MidiBoard. The sample set isn't anything special but they use a dynamic filter that is really well implemented in my opinion. Very nice in the lower velocity range.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri May 23, 2014 7:28 pm

BERFAB wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
BERFAB wrote:My new go-to is the 'Mellow Piano" patch in Halion Sonic 2. It has a very nice collection of many different types of pianos and keys.
That's weird, I don't seem to have that patch
It doesn't seem to be in the patchlist either, is this one you made yourself?
No, I don't do anything like that myself anymore. I'll check my patchlist tonight to double check the name. I may be confusing the names, but it is definitely a HS2 preset (not HSE2).

Did you find out?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri May 23, 2014 7:33 pm

When I read the thread title I'm thinking somebody is trying to get the Missus early to bed

DSmolken · Post by **DSmolken** » Fri May 23, 2014 7:40 pm

I like how QUIETLY is capitalized in the thread title. I need to play this piano QUIETLY and GENLTY and DELICATELY, GODDAMIT!

Taoist · Post by **Taoist** » Fri May 23, 2014 8:04 pm

cytoSonic wrote:This may seem like a ludicrous suggestion (and it was even derided earlier in the thread), but may I suggest The Giant? I, too, absolutely HATED the sound of this thing when I first got Komplete 9 last year. It was oh so obnoxiously in-your-face and grating! But the other night I was messing around with it and realized that it can be coaxed to get some really delicate tones.

The original poster set as a benchmark Morton Feldman (whom I love btw). And the reason I am suggesting The Giant is the ability to completely control (with fine detail) all of the auxiliary sounds of the instrument (damper, hammers, overtones, pedal movements, etc.). These things all add to that Feldman "intimacy" that you find in his later works. Not to mention the sustain on this instrument goes on forever.

So don't (like me) judge this instrument from the presets that it comes with. I agree, they're horrible. I do think it is a very capable instrument and might be (with a little TLC) just the thing for Feldman-esque compositions.

FWIW, the following is the result of my noodling the other night. This little snippet is all "The Giant" (of course you'll hear some digital manipulation in there, too, but alas I didn't save the original renders). Just an example of some of the more unconventional sounds to be gotten from the samples...
https://soundcloud.com/cytosonic/giantdemo

-Brad

I have to agree with this gentleman. I shopped for eons for a sampled piano that was expressive and beautiful to my taste when played quietly. I ended up buying many of the ones that are commercially hailed as excelling in this sound but found myself scratching my head as to what I was missing with each of them. I thought my perfectionism was just destroying my ability to appreciate the tones. Well, I just flat out ended up surrendering to the fact that sampled pianos were not going to cut it. Shortly thereafter I decided to upgrade my Komplete package to version 9 which contained the Giant. Without any expectations of it I opened it went through a few presets and thought: "Well, my suspicions have simply been confirmed again. Sampled pianos suck!" It was only due to the fact that The Giant was more responsive to my playing style that I continued to try and use it. Soon I began, out of frustration, to make some pretty radical adjustments to the dynamic range knob by turning it towards the minus sign and cut the color knob slightly into the direction of a softer tone and bingo! The Giant soon became my absolute favorite sampled piano in my collection. Another reason I have grown to love it is because due to the fact of its tone being so flexible I can actually go in during the mix phase and really make it find its place within a greater context. Just my opinion in regard to The Giant.

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Sat May 24, 2014 4:12 am

aMUSEd wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
BERFAB wrote:My new go-to is the 'Mellow Piano" patch in Halion Sonic 2. It has a very nice collection of many different types of pianos and keys.
That's weird, I don't seem to have that patch
It doesn't seem to be in the patchlist either, is this one you made yourself?

The patch is "Mellow Grand Piano."

Sorry it took so long to get it on here. I got sidetracked with something else.

Cheers
-B

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat May 24, 2014 10:51 am

Thanks but there is no Mellow Grand patch in Halionsonic 2 on my system (or Halion 5 for that matter). I am sure I installed all content and even checked against the patchlist.

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Sat May 24, 2014 10:58 am

I did not create the patch. I got HS 2 after upgrading HS 1. And I run it in Cubase 7. 5, so maybe it's a legacy patch from an old HS E or something?

Sorry I can't be more helpful. And very sorry you don't have this patch.

-B

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat May 24, 2014 11:18 am

Thanks - this is a mystery then - it's not in the HS1 patchlist either:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/dow ... sonic.html

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sat May 24, 2014 11:46 am

aMUSEd wrote:Thanks - this is a mystery then - it's not in the HS1 patchlist either:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/dow ... sonic.html

If it can help...

Two clues (search the string "mellow grand"):

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat May 24, 2014 11:53 am

Even more mysterious then - it's in one list but not the one on the Steinberg site - perhaps it was in an addon? (I notice a few other patches I don't have - eg Mellow DX and Piano Elegy - it has them under "Pro set" - is that a addon?)

ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Download/VSTi_H ... isting.pdf

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sat May 24, 2014 12:11 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Even more mysterious then - it's in one list but not the one on the Steinberg site - perhaps it was in an addon? (I notice a few other patches I don't have - eg Mellow DX and Piano Elegy - it has them under "Pro set" - is that a addon?)

ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Download/VSTi_H ... isting.pdf

Hmmm... I think that we progress. Look:

https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/kn ... oduct]=164

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sat May 24, 2014 12:13 pm

And also:
http://www.updatestar.com/fr/topic/hali ... 0pro%20set

(in french "Télécharger" means "Download")

Best sampled Piano with beautiful soft tone when played QUIETLY