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Jake Jackson · Post by **Jake Jackson** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:54 pm

On other sites, I've posted about my affection for the J.B. Streicher piano from 1852, so I don't see why I shouldn't repeat myself here. Part of the Kremsegg 1 add-on. Some nice recordings of it in a classical context:

https://pianoteq.com/kremsegg1

I'm liking it as an all-around piano, too, for blues and attempts at songwriting.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Sat May 24, 2014 9:44 pm

There's no perfect piano. Don't look for one

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Sat May 24, 2014 9:45 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Oh yes - the tone is really much improved and the bottom end is terrific

Great! Thanks for the response!

CableChannel · Post by **CableChannel** » Sun May 25, 2014 8:57 am

OK so I tried to see what happens if I replace P4 by P5 in my existing projects. I learned: rather don't do it. Over time I had refined my P4 sound over and over, I fought the dullness/boxiness using exciters, EQ, multibandcompression, and these settings just don't match with the P5 basic sound. P5 has less mids, and more mid-treble. The mid-treble gets very nasty if I boost highs like I was used to with P4.

So I think I have to make a new learning curve, play around with plugsin/settings first to get my new favourite P5 sound in the mix.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun May 25, 2014 9:05 am

PTQ4 and PTQ5 are quite different in sound - it is advised to leave both installed, for compatibility with DAW projects.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun May 25, 2014 12:19 pm

pianoteq demo is only a few tones silence and 20 min. restriction (you can load a new instance in a second) afair. this is really great and leave no excuse not to test it.

electro · Post by **electro** » Sun May 25, 2014 1:04 pm

What Pianoteq achieved with version 4 was amazing and its only getting better. PT5 sounds just like the real thing IMO.

jantex · Post by **jantex** » Sun May 25, 2014 2:07 pm

Pianoteq 5 is IMHO by far the best piano apart from the real one. It is sooo much better than any piano sample library I have ever tried. Really amazing!!!

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sun May 25, 2014 3:28 pm

jantex wrote:Pianoteq 5 is IMHO by far the best piano apart from the real one. It is sooo much better than any piano sample library I have ever tried. Really amazing!!!

Yes. I love it, especially the fact that the sound is... alive! And even full of life as a real piano!
In comparison, even all the best sampled piano I have heard have a static, completely dead, sound between the attack and the extinction. And it's not by adding effects that we give life to something dead at the origin, especially sounds like pianos. It can dupe someone who plays piano among many other instruments, but not a real lover of the piano. Effects like those provided in Pianoteq have a real use to bring something in addition to a sound already alive, not to pretend give life to a dead sound.

jantex · Post by **jantex** » Sun May 25, 2014 4:42 pm

I agree and new mic positioning option is superb. For example I can make a Steinway sound anyway I want. I can make it sound more intimate by repositioning mics or choosing other mics. With any sample library you are limited to the chosen mic, here you can adapt it anyway you want. It is unblelievable how can I achieve all the sounds I have in my head that weren't possible with my 600GB of piano libraries...and the dynamics and velocities are always the way they should be. IMHO this really is a top product for anyone who is serious about a piano sound.

waltercruz · Post by **waltercruz** » Sun May 25, 2014 5:08 pm

this thread is really convincing me (and trying the demo too, of course).

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Sun May 25, 2014 5:17 pm

perhaps it needs a new review ?

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Sun May 25, 2014 5:31 pm

waltercruz wrote:this thread is really convincing me (and trying the demo too, of course).

Just a 'heads up' perspective here...
On first opening for me, the output is high, even to the point of distorting the sound a bit.
Simple, turn down the volume.

And I'm sure each of us has their personal tastes to what they should sound like, so don't be afraid to jump into the tweaking immediately with the demo. After turning down the output, I found I liked the sound quite a bit, but with just a few minor tweaks 'to taste' really like it a lot.

The U4 upright takes me back to the piano I grew up with (before my mother decided it was ugly and replaced it with a 'game show spinet'). And the grands are easily tweaked into the sounds of what I got from my second piano teachers studio.
And there's something really nice about the Bechsteins and Bosendorfers too (Which I played in our old little Grange and Town Halls). I do believe the sound we seek in pianos are what we grew up with. Overall, quite a winner IMO. Just need a sale price to get me to take the leap.

waltercruz · Post by **waltercruz** » Sun May 25, 2014 5:33 pm

There's some addon that resembles a Yamaha C7?

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Sun May 25, 2014 5:37 pm

waltercruz wrote:There's some addon that resembles a Yamaha C7?

Not specifically, but tweaking the D4 gave me the feel of my old piano teachers Yamaha Studio Grand (I don't recall which model it was).
I was able to get some Baldwin type feels from the K2 also.

Pianoteq 5 is out!