vLINN - Linn LM-1 Drum Machine Emulation - Any Users?

[Asuyuka]

I've gotten the plug since. It is very very nice, and that's before loading custom samples.

Feel like attempting some synthpop now. Maybe have something posted later this week, day depending.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

For some, myself included, it's a question of not wanting to run bridged plugins due to the overhead and possibility for incompatibility/stability issues

Fair enough, but nobody is forcing anybody to buy a plug, this is not a soviet economy, if a plug doesn't meet the requirements of the buyer, the buyer can move on and buy from a different vendor who offers what the buyer wants.

That's essentially my point. I think it's well established that a large number of buyers won't spend money on commercial SE plugins, no matter how good the product otherwise may be. If these arguments work to convince the developer to ditch SE and find another alternative, great! If not, no problem; I'll live without vLINN.

[knowix]

Well I wouldn't be surprised if increasing commercial interest in this plugin will make him consider scaling his operation up a little.

Having the know-how to model digital chips and analogue filter chips opens up, if not a gold mine, then a silver mine of sought after digital emulations.

Classic E-MU units like the Emulator and SP-1200. Also the Akai-950, Roland S750 and the Ensoniq Mirage.

[BlackWinny]

I think it's well established that a large number of buyers won't spend money on commercial SE plugins, no matter how good the product otherwise may be

By who ?

Have you real statistics ? We'd like to consult them...

If these arguments work to convince the developer to ditch SE and find another alternative, great! If not, no problem; I'll live without vLINN.

There is no argument at all in your text. There is only a personal declaration.

If not, no problem; I'll live without vLINN.

And after?

You think that they will mind your absence in their list of customers ?

[Asuyuka]

Just saying I haven't had this much fun with a drum sampler in a loooong time. I kind of wish every sample could be replaced for a fully custom kit, but that's me. I'm currently creating my own kit.

[LimboLoves]

I have been producing since 08 and never noticed the difference between 32 and 64. People just like to create drama. Sounds great Aly.

[GruvSyco]

Cons to SynthEdit:
No 64-bit Windows version
No OSX versions
No AU
No AAX
Requires bridge to run in 64-bit Windows hosts

Says pretty much the same thing
Says pretty much the same thing

Did you check your facts with the Department of Redundancy Department?

[BlackWinny]

Cons to SynthEdit:
No 64-bit Windows version
No OSX versions
No AU
No AAX
Requires bridge to run in 64-bit Windows hosts

Says pretty much the same thing
Says pretty much the same thing

Did you check your facts with the Department of Redundancy Department?

Very well seen!

[bftucker]

I've gotten the plug since. It is very very nice, and that's before loading custom samples.

Those who use vLINN, have nothing but praise! Those who don't, debate the merits of 32bit vs 64bit plugins (again).

(If you like chiptunes, check out the developer's other emulations which are equally praiseworthy (and 32bit).

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[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I think it's well established that a large number of buyers won't spend money on commercial SE plugins, no matter how good the product otherwise may be

By who ?

Have you real statistics ? We'd like to consult them...

Anecdotal evidence is still evidence. Absent statistics to the contrary, I can only go off what I've seen and heard. That is: there's a significant number of people who don't want to buy commercial SE plugins for the reasons pointed out ad nauseum already. See the various threads on all the various commercial SE plugins for reference.

Additional facts? There's a very large Mac audio community that can't use SE plugins. There's no chance of the large, cross platform Pro Tools user base that can't use SE plugins. Therefore, logic dictates that those groups, in addition to the "I don't want to run bridged plugins" crowd, cannot buy this plugin do to how it was developed.

Now, I don't get why you seem to be getting so defensive about it. You like the plugin and don't have a problem with the SE limitations. Good for you. I'd like to see the developer create a native version and won't spend money on it until/unless that happens. Good for me.

[murnau]

Cons to SynthEdit:
No 64-bit Windows version
No OSX versions
No AU
No AAX
Requires bridge to run in 64-bit Windows hosts

Says pretty much the same thing
Says pretty much the same thing

Did you check your facts with the Department of Redundancy Department?

No it's not saying pretty much the same thing. In fact it's a correct statement.

[breakmixer]

I have been producing since 08 and never noticed the difference between 32 and 64. People just like to create drama. Sounds great Aly.

You will not notice any difference, it has nothing to do with sound quality, it is only a ram issue, 64bit host can utilize more ram for example when using large sample libraries(i.e. a Kontakt library might start to glitch in 32bit but not in 64bit).

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People that have moved over to a 64bit host should only use this product or consider buying it if they are happy to use Jbridge etc, otherwise move on until the time that it does/may become 64bit.

You should only buy this product if happy 'as is', not on the word he may develop a 64bit in the future though.

That's my thoughts...

[BlackWinny]

I have been producing since 08 and never noticed the difference between 32 and 64. People just like to create drama. Sounds great Aly.

You will not notice any difference, it has nothing to do with sound quality, it is only a ram issue, 64bit host can utilize more ram for example when using large sample libraries(i.e. a Kontakt library might start to glitch in 32bit but not in 64bit).

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People that have moved over to a 64bit host should only use this product or consider buying it if they are happy to use Jbridge etc, otherwise move on until the time that it does/may become 64bit.

You should only buy this product if happy 'as is', not on the word he may develop a 64bit in the future though.

That's my thoughts...

And it's the good thoughts.

[Numanoid]

That's essentially my point. I think it's well established that a large number of buyers won't spend money on commercial SE plugins, no matter how good the product otherwise may be. If these arguments work to convince the developer to ditch SE and find another alternative, great! If not, no problem; I'll live without vLINN.

I think the pricepoint must be taken into consideration.

As I understand this plug can be had for €15. This means that I wont go broke buying it and if SynthEdit don't come round with 64 bit by 2015 and all DAWs then crave 64 bit plugs, I've had a year or two mileage of the plug, and will then upgrade to a plug that can be used with the systems then.

However, had this plug cost €100 now, then I would worry about the 64 bit version, as I would invest so much money it it, I would need that it works for more than a couple of years.

[BlackWinny]

I have been producing since 08 and never noticed the difference between 32 and 64. People just like to create drama. Sounds great Aly.

You will not notice any difference, it has nothing to do with sound quality, it is only a ram issue, 64bit host can utilize more ram for example when using large sample libraries(i.e. a Kontakt library might start to glitch in 32bit but not in 64bit).

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People that have moved over to a 64bit host should only use this product or consider buying it if they are happy to use Jbridge etc, otherwise move on until the time that it does/may become 64bit.

You should only buy this product if happy 'as is', not on the word he may develop a 64bit in the future though.

That's my thoughts...

And it's the good thoughts.


Ableton explains all that very well:
https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/64bit-myths-facts/